michaellinder Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 <p>I decided to jump in at the last minute, inasmuch as a challenge for this week had not yet been posted.</p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaellinder Posted May 17, 2015 Author Share Posted May 17, 2015 <p>The original . . .</p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thormod Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 <p>Good call. Maybe I can try next week:)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Bortnick Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 <p>Thanks for starting Michael, I thought Thormod would. No biggie, I would have started but we went to B&H today to look/buy some studio lighting set-ups.</p> <p>Image reminded me of a 1950's vacation snap-shot. So I went into Silver effects until I got what looked good.</p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyn_saroyan Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 <p>I blurred the background, converted to tinted black & white, dropped the background 2 stops and boosted the subject 2 stops.<br> Allyn</p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaellinder Posted May 17, 2015 Author Share Posted May 17, 2015 <p>In case you're interested, the subject of the challenge image is an exaggerated, manufactured version of Salvador Dali's moustache.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaellinder Posted May 17, 2015 Author Share Posted May 17, 2015 <p>Allyn: I like how the blurred background removes distractions that otherwise would draw a viewer's eye away from the subject.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Bortnick Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 <p>Also liked the way it miniaturized the view (at least to me).</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norma Desmond Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 <blockquote> <p>I like how the blurred background removes distractions that otherwise would draw a viewer's eye away from the subject.</p> </blockquote> <p>Looking at a lot of Dali's work, I wonder if he would feel the same way. As a matter of fact, your original, where subject and background were less distinct and more blended, seemed to have much more Dali in it than separating the elements does. Since it is a photo of a reproduction of the Dali mustache in situ, approaching it to look more like a Dali painting, which your original does, would seem an interesting and insightful way to go. Consider the similarity between how he handled subject, background, and intermingling elements in <a href="http://webneel.com/daily/sites/default/files/images/daily/09-2013/2-reflection-elephants-illusion-paintings-by-salvador-dali.jpg">THIS PAINTING</a> and how your original comes across. I might have done a little post processing for sure on your original, but not to isolate the subject or remove distraction.</p> We didn't need dialogue. We had faces! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaellinder Posted May 18, 2015 Author Share Posted May 18, 2015 <p>Applied several colorizing and tonal adjustment filters in Color Efex.</p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_mann1 Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 <p>I'm with Allyn, Michael and Rick in enjoying and appreciating Allyn's isolated, miniaturized version. For the purposes of this thread, I think the various derivative images should each stand on their own, and there is absolutely no reason for the images submitted in this thread to attempt to be faithful to Dali's style unless that is the intention of a particular participant in this thread. To me, the changes made by Allyn allow me to focus on the (presumed) subject while adding a nice air of size dissonance.</p> <p>Fred, as we have debated years ago, if you think a derivative version presuming to adhere to Dali's preferences would be interesting, and since this is a hands-on thread, why don't you submit a version so we can see exactly what you have in mind, rather than just suggesting in words that such an approach might be interesting or even preferable.</p> <p>Tom M</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norma Desmond Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 <blockquote> <p>if you think a derivative version presuming to adhere to Dali's preferences would be interesting, and since this is a hands-on thread, why don't you submit a version so we can see exactly what you have in mind, rather than just suggesting in words that such an approach might be interesting or even preferable.</p> </blockquote> <p>Because, in this case, something Michael SAID struck me and I wanted to respond in words. I haven't found it to be a good use of my time to post process other people's photos. I generally spend a lot of time on what I do in post processing and prefer to invest that time in a photo I myself took. But I do check into the thread every now and then and appreciate that others find benefit or get fun out of doing this sort of thing. I didn't have a specific vision in mind, just a loose idea of an alternative way to approach it. I'm glad if Michael was stimulated by my thoughts, as I was by his. I don't see that as a waste of my effort or that anything was damaged in the process. But thanks so much for weighing in, Tom.</p> We didn't need dialogue. We had faces! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norma Desmond Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 <blockquote> <p>if you think a derivative version presuming to adhere to Dali's preferences</p> </blockquote> <p>Tom, I also wanted to thank you for this, which brings up a couple of interesting points especially related to post processing and stylization. Can one pay homage to or create something with a kindred sensibility to someone like Dali without being derivative or imitative or mimicking? I think so. Generally when I talk about this sort of stylistic approach, I would lean toward a result that's more metaphorical than literal.<br> <br> Secondly, if my introduction distracted you from my main point, I withdraw it. I was speaking very loosely and again metaphorically when I said "I wonder if he would feel the same way" in referring to Dali. If that came out as anything close to "presuming to adhere to Dali's preferences," I am sorry for that. Again, it was not really my intention to presume to know what's in Dali's head. It was simply my intention to bounce a few ideas back and forth with Michael, with whom I have a fairly long and established relationship here on PN. </p> We didn't need dialogue. We had faces! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spearhead Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 <p>.</p><div></div> Music and Portraits Blog: Life in Portugal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Bortnick Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 <p>While the thread is entitled "Weekly Post-Processing Challenge" it seems that both your views are valid. Those of us who want to post-process of course do. But if it engenders a discussion isn't that the same or better than (I'll use my own comment here) a simple</p> <blockquote>Also liked the way it miniaturized the view (at least to me).</blockquote> <p>But that is the point of art, isn't it? To create, be inspired, to think, perchance to dream ... [sorry about that :) ]<br> BTW - Jeff I like the minimalistic look</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaellinder Posted May 18, 2015 Author Share Posted May 18, 2015 <p>Jeff, it needs some moustache wax!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadley Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 <p>I like Allyn's the best so far. Mine is the pencil filter in topaz simplify and then inverted the image in photoshop,</p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn McCreery Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 <p>Wildlife in the Dali Park. Playing with Topaz Remask 4 in CS5, using an old photo of a ground squirrel that I took in another park. He was well groomed and may have used moustache wax. I too like Allyn's rendition. Sorry Fred, that my version is thoroughly derivative and imitative (but I feel no shame). I find it interesting that the discussion of this image suddenly perked up when Michael revealed that this was Dali's moustache. If he stated that this was Graucho Marx's moustache, the responses and editing (including my own) would have been completely different.</p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thormod Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 <p>Removed a couple items that "bothered" me. Pushed colors a little and sharpened.</p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaellinder Posted May 20, 2015 Author Share Posted May 20, 2015 <p>I wonder how long it took the squirrel to grow the moustache.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaellinder Posted May 20, 2015 Author Share Posted May 20, 2015 <p>Tony, the white edges provide an appearance of which Dali would approve, in my opinion.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Bortnick Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 <p>Thormod .. you need to resize image to 700 pixels on it's longest axis if you want it to display.</p> <p>Anyone for next time?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LineMartel Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 <p>I will post the next one...</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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