Voigtlander 28/1.9 Ultron Aspherical...reality or not?

Discussion in 'Leica and Rangefinders' started by shawngibson, Oct 6, 2000.

  1. Does anyone know if this lens materialized, as per Gandy's early info...? If so, anyone heard about it in use?
     
  2. Shawn, I'm the one who gave Gandy the info on that lens. I had sent
    Cosina an e-mail question, and when they responded they told me they
    were coming out SOON with the 28mm f1.9 as well as a 90mm f3.5 in the
    Leica screw mount, and few other new lenses for the manual focus SLR
    cameras. No date was given, and I had a feeling it may be after the
    first of the year or a few months still.
     
  3. Thanks Andrew, again...

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    I'll just have to wait and see, I guess. I've also heard that we
    (Canadians) are going to be getting a Voigtlander distributor soon,
    so maybe the 2 will co-incide...
     
  4. Shawn,
    I saw on the LUG site that the British photo magazine, "Amateur
    Photographer" has a review of the 12, 28 and 90mm Cosina lenses. I
    looked here in Florida, but we are about two weeks out of sync with
    the delivery of foreign magazines to our news stands. There was some
    mention of "first of the year", so that is probably true.

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    In the mean time I attached two web pages... one is press release,
    the other the standard Voightlander Bessa R, which now includes the
    28 and 90.

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    Interestingly, there is now a 75mm f2.5 color heliar in SLR mount...
    for most of the standard cameras.
    News release:

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    http://www.cosina.com/Press%20release%201.htm

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    lenses:

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    http://www.cosina.com/lenses.htm
     
  5. This is really good news. Thanks Al. Why a black hood on a chrome
    lens though, Cosina?
     
  6. It is probably easier to build a totally black hood, (the inside HAS
    to be black to prevent light from bouncing around), then to make a
    two tone, silver and black.

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    My chrome Summicron had a black hood... I kind of like the contrast.
     
  7. hummm...I just realized this was coming from a guy (me) who has never
    owned a chrome lens. big duh on my part. The chrome Vgtlndr. lens
    hood on the cameraquest site are all chrome from what I could
    tell...and I assumed that was normal in the RF world.

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    ps I'm getting my CL a week today. Can't wait; the test roll came out
    fine. 28-50-90 here-I-come.

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    Now in what order? O these confounded decisions. I think I'll start
    with the...with the one which presents itself to me first! Prob'ly a
    Summicron 50mm f2.
     
  8. These lenses look very tasty I must say. I like their 75mm and 125mm
    SLR lenses - they have a look of the marvellous Contarex/Zeiss lenses
    of the 60s.

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    The 28 Ultron is very attractive - I wonder how it will compare with
    the 28 Summicron. I also wonder what the price is...I feel I might
    have to get one for my CL if it is a reasonable price (hang on didn't
    I want the 15mm Heliar?)
     
  9. Yeah, I agree...it's almost tempting to go 28, 50, 75 Cosina. I mean, the body (CL) is built in Japan, why bother pretending I'm rich? The proof would be in the pudding, though. Literally 99% of the pics in my portfolio are done with German glass (Zeiss), because they happen to be the ones I like the most...just noticed this over a drink the other day when a photog friend asked me what was what lens and body wise as we went through my photos. It almost blew me away. Out of 40 photographs, 37 were with German lenses, the rest were Nikon.
    On that, I'm sure I'd see the difference b/t Leica and Cosina glass.
     
  10. Shawn,

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    You are really vacillating on the lens choice... just get them all,
    (ha! ha!). I suspect my percentages would be similar to yours if I
    could enjoy using my 90mm Leica lens. It is just a great lens, but I
    can't use it as effortlessly as my Nikon SLR with 105mm, (which is
    not too shabby either).

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    I think the key is... use what you CAN use. The sharpest most
    contrasty lens on the least ergonomic package won't produce as well
    as a pretty good lens on a camera / lens combo that you are
    truly "one" with. My Leica is a bit better than my Nikon when I use
    a 35 or 50mm lens, but I get better pictures with my Nikon for longer
    lenses... regardless of the potential advantage of the 90mm Leica
    lens. For me, the handling is part of the formula. It doesn't show
    up on a MTF graph... but it is important.
     
  11. Curiouser and curiouser...

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    Here's a Japanese company using a German name to market lenses which
    can be used on German and Japanese Cameras... all advertised on a
    Polish web server!
     
  12. I'm very encouraged that the new 28 appears to have a decent tread on
    the focus ring--the indentations on the 35/1.7 are so shallow as to be
    purely decorative--I'm still trying to figure out how to hang a tab on
    mine so there's something to hold onto!
     
  13. For anyone who is interested, I just got back an e-mail from Cosina.
    The 28mm f1.9 will be available in January 2001. Also if your
    interested, the 75mm color heliar lens for SLR mount is optically
    identical to the RF version, modified in the lens body to be used on
    SLR's
     
  14. I had a close up look at these lenses whilst at photokina, they were
    not available to the general public however.
    They both looked lovely and the test picture I took with the 28 was
    wonderfully crisp, (the 90mm shot suffered from camera shake).
    The 28 is in fact the fastest lens of that focal length ever made for
    rangefinder cameras, just.
    Availability from late this year here in the UK.
    Jem Kime
     
  15. Voigtlander have the Japanese practice of giving having weird maximum
    apertures, probably just to be apparently faster than the Summicron
    28mm. I very much doubt that the lens really is f1.9 (just as many
    reflex f1.8 lenses are more likely f2 in reality). Leica and Zeiss
    have never really entered into that numbers game. Isn't it a bit like
    having a price of 29.95 which sounds less than 30?
     
  16. I like whole number f-stops unless I am using a stepless shutter. If
    my exposure is determined to be 1/15th at f2.8, and I want to go
    faster for hand holding, my next speed is 1/30th at f2.0. My
    automatic SLR's can go "in-between" speeds steplessly, so there may
    be some benefit to those fractions. But I think Robin is correct, a
    one point..."something" is more exciting than 2.0 as far as marketing.

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    There is some redeeming qualities to Cosina's honesty though. They
    could have called their 50mm lens a 1.4 rather than a 1.5, which is
    more universally understood and desirable. In a 1994 test, the M
    series 50mm Sumilux was tested by "Popular Photography" as being
    f1.5... a result argued by hard core Leica people, but math is math,
    and the F-stop is determined by simple division. But in real life,
    you would never see a 0.1 exposure difference on film... the shutter
    aren't that accurate on the "M's" anyhow.
     

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