arie_h Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 Good afternoon, What are the main differences between these three films? Were they made for different purposes? Thanks for your anwsers - O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmarfudd Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 Velvia is the most saturated, the new 100 is quite nice.... skin tones are much better than previous attempts. The provia seems to be more neutral but still very colorful. As for the Astia, I have never tried. I'm sure fujifilm.com gives a good run down of the characteristics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew1 Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 Velvia is the original hyper-saturated, high contrast film with beyond-real color. Provia is a more neutral, normal color version, with more "normal" contrast and color characteristics, and Astia was introduced to provide better skin tones across the board for pros who wanted to shoot color chrome, but wanted skin tones that looked more natural than either Velvia or Provia, without switching to another brand. (Fuji was the first have really punchy color E6 film (the original Velvia 50, still my favorite), but the last to come up wth good skin tones (Astia).<p>As digital imaging, better scanners and improved grain and color negative films have emerged since these formulations, Fuji has tried to up the ante in terms of increasing contrast and saturation, and reducing grain size (that's what the F means in the names of these films that have it- it stands for fine grain/high accutance) for these films, while also adding speed to the Velvia line. (And IMO, killed Velvia.) These days, the differences are still there, but if you are scanning and adjusting balance and contrast, go with the one that yeilds the lowest contrast (should be Provia) and you'll get better shadow/highlight detail ratios. If you are projecting, do some test, figure out the differences in practice, and shoot the emulsions you like for the subjects you choose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmarfudd Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 It should be clarified that I was referring to Velvia 100, not 100F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsimmons Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 Of these three, Astia is the lowest contrast and is considered by many - but not all - to make the best scans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrivers Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 Astia is the lowest contrast version of the three. I have used Sensia as well which some say is an amateur version of the pro-version Astia. Both Astia and Sensia scan on my Minolta 5400 with Vuescan nicely, and I have a much harder time with Provia. I find I can always add contrast to a flat Sensia negative, but I have been burned with lack of shadow details with Provia, especially on bright sunny summer days. I save Velvia for cloudy days with flat light, when I'm shooting landscapes, as the greens really glow.I have also had good sucess converting Sensia to B/W in Photoshop, or Lightroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnmarkpainter Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 Provia 400 is like Color TriX to me (that's a good thing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbizarro Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 You can find all you are looking for, and much more, here: http://www.fujifilm.com/products/professional_films/lineup.html Also, there is a film forum in Photo Net. People should use the search engine in this site. furthermore, google is your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthuryeo Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Astia has the finest grains among all the FujiFilm slides. It has less contrast and the pros use it for outdoor portraits. Personally, I find the contrast just fine and the colors are also good but not overly saturated. Here's one scanned example ... http://www.photo.net/photo/4445146&size=lg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Smith Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 I sort of agree with the others. Velvia has very highly saturated colors and has high contrast - wonderfully warm and "the public" often love its pumped color. Provia 100/100F was introduced to be a more accurate (or I think as a less saturated alternative to Velvia), but it is still excellent for landscapes and for high contrast situations. I am not all that fond of it myself, but many like it very much. It has lowish contrast which makes it less good if you actually project slides - but this makes it very nice for scanning. Its skin tones are much better than Velvia. Provia 400F is an excellent fast slide film - low grain and moderate contrast and nice skin tones - but do not expect saturated colors. Astia 100F is a neutral film aimed at obtaining accurate skin tones and it has higher contrast than Provia and good saturation. I prefer its colors to Provia myself. Velvia 100F was/is a film that Fuji introduced to replace Velvia 50. It does not quite work - it resembles Velvia 50's colors, but its skin tones are even worse and it lacks the warmth of the original. I have not tried the new Velvia 100, which is yet another attempt by Fuji to obtain a faster Velvia. I am not actually sure it is possible to do this - but Fuji keep trying. Robin Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger_smith4 Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 "Provia 400F is an excellent fast slide film - low grain and moderate contrast and nice skin tones - but do not expect saturated colors. Astia 100F is a neutral film aimed at obtaining accurate skin tones and it has higher contrast than Provia and good saturation. I prefer its colors to Provia myself. " Hmm. I'm pretty sure Provia 100F is more contrasty than Astia (and Sensia) as I'm having a lot more trouble scanning it, and 400F seems to hold less shadow detail than Provia 100F. I personally like and recommend Sensia 100 as a cheap and good alternative to all of the above. It's easy to scan and has great reciprocity characteristics for night shots (and no Provia aqua skies either!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob F. Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Seems to me that Sensia is the same emulsion as Provia, but for the amateur market: not refrigerated or aged for optimum color balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_cook2 Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 This was an interesting discussion but why is it in the Leica and Rangefinders forum? I only came across it by accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Smith Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Sensia 100 is excellent too, but it is not the same as Astia 100F. Astia 100F is a little faster (I rate it at 125 vs. 100 for Sensia) and it has finer grain, although its color, contrast and saturation seem to me to be almost exactly the same. Sensia 100 was the amateur version of the original Astia 100, not Astia 100F. Robin Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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