monsoonphoto.net Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 Here are some photos from the 40/1.4. Leica M3; Ilford XP2; Nikon Coolscan IVED; Vuescan; No sharpening done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsoonphoto.net Posted December 29, 2004 Author Share Posted December 29, 2004 Damn. Let's try that again.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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les_lammers Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 Alan, I think the lens is quite good, especially for the $$$, Yen, etc.There is nothing in that speed for reasonable sums. Les Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henryk_barnas Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 Alan are these crops of full frames? I have new VC 35 f2.5 and center is fine but edges suffer from vignetting below 5.6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin m. Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 Looks like a fine lens, especially considering its size and price. Are the pics full frame? If they are, the vignetting at f1.4 seems quite reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreas_t Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 On the 40 mm lens with 50 framelines issue... I converted my 40 Rokkor to bring up the 35 frame and I would do it again. I assume the same could be done with the VC. If you want more info search the forum, Al Kaplan has written a brief instruction on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_kieltyka1 Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 Andreas, it doesn't matter with an M3...there is no 35mm frame. :-) Judging by his "vanity" shot Alan must be using the entire finder to frame his photos. -Dave- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich815 Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 I'm loving my VC 40/1,4 Nokton. I'm using it on an RA3 but have an M3 coming that I will try it on too. Some say the bokeh is a bit rough from some shots I posted earlier but I think the background of some chain link fences in some of my shots might have given a bad impression of the bokeh. Certainly looks pretty good in these shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin m. Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 Even if it's not a perfect lens at f1.4, it certainly looks better than the old 35 Summilux at that aperture, and it seems nearly as compact. That's a big plus, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yochin Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 It sounds like this lens was designed as a compromise between the 35mm Summilux (except a fraction longer) and the 50mm Summicron (except slightly wider and faster) without all the cost of the Leitz glass. If one didn't have either of those lenses then I am sure this 40mm 1.4 lens would seem very attractive. It would also be interesting if one didn't already have a 40mm f2.0 rokker lens or equal. It seems a little bit redundant to pick this guy up if you already have an equally as good lens except one stop slower. It doesn't however sound as useful for the RD-1 as it's going to be something like 64mm, which sort of negates the advantage of it being a supposedly "slightly wide" lens. Hahhah! I love the obligatory bathroom shot! Post more pix please! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_kieltyka1 Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 >> It doesn't however sound as useful for the RD-1 as it's going to be something like 64mm, which sort of negates the advantage of it being a supposedly "slightly wide" lens. << Well, with the R-D1 you just adjust to the fact that 40mm is no longer slightly wide but rather slightly long. I've used the 40 'Cron-C as my RF normal lens for the past couple years. In the late 1990s I used a 60mm Macro Elmarit as my Leica SLR normal lens. Different views but equally useful...and I like 'em both. -Dave- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert meier Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 The background in the wide-open Rahmen shot looks pretty bad -- jangly, busy, unpleasant. I think the old 35 Summilux is a lot better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill_marshall1 Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 >"It sounds like this lens was designed as a compromise between the 35 Summilux and the 50 Summicron without all the cost of the Leitz glass." I doubt it, David. Camera companies are all about selling cameras. Cosina collaborated with Epson in the development of the RD-1. In the process, a 1:1 finder was developed for the RD-1. My guess is that Cosina saw an opportunity: make a big splash by putting the 1:1 finder on a film camera. The problem was that 35 mm framelines wouldn't fit in the finder, given the Bessa base line. Voila! 40 mm framelines were the solution. Of course, a 40 mm lens was needed since Cosina didn't have such a RF lens in their stable. So, make the splash even bigger: 1:1 finer AND f/1.4 lens! So, rather than developing a 40 mm lens in search of a camera, my guess is that the 40 mm lens came in the back door & that Cosina specifically avoided competing with other existing lenses at the speed niche they had already established - which has been the CV way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry_rory Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 Thanks for posting these pics Alan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas_t Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 Alan, Thanks for the shots, I like the way you see things. But then again, I don't think I've ever seen you take bad shots with any of your lenses. Just goes to show it is the photographer, cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_neuthaler Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 Maybe I'm missing something but, IMHO, the lens doesn't seem particularly great in any way -- except maybe price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del_gray Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 I really like the look of the first two shots taken at f2.8, they seem to be relatively sharp and the oof highlights look smooth. The last three shots at f1.4, however, seem relatively fuzzy at the point of focus with a harsher bokeh. Maybe the different performance at various apertures account for the conflicting reports and uneven images we are seeing on the web. Anyone seen a nice smooth image from this lens taken at 1.4 or 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich815 Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 This one is the 40 Nokton at f/1,4 and seems pretty smooth to me.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich815 Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 Try again.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd_phillips1 Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 Richard, Was that alley shot taken with the SC version or the MC version of the 1.4 lens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsoonphoto.net Posted December 29, 2004 Author Share Posted December 29, 2004 Henryk, Kevin: Yes, these are full-frame images. The vignetting is obviously there, but I don't mind it as I think adds to the "feel" of the pictures, especially in B&W. Still, some people consider it an optical flaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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