jeffrey_prokopowicz Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 <p>I was looking for some ideas on how I could use photography to make a statement and maybe a difference about the downfall of our country since the Obama administration took over. I know not everyone will agree with my description of a "downfall," but to me the democratic party, and especially Obama, are contributing to the destruction of wealth and strength of our great nation with a government takeover of the health care system currently being rammed through, Cap and Trade which will greatly harm our economy and destroy more jobs than it creates, the undertone of socialism, creation of a nanny goverment, loss of freedom, redistribution of wealth, the arrogance of not listening to the people and thinking we're to stupid to know what's best for us, and on and on and on. I think you get my point.</p><p>The question is how can these realities be portayed through the powerful medium of photography? Thanks.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffrey_prokopowicz Posted October 18, 2009 Author Share Posted October 18, 2009 <p>BTW, I tried to put this in the "Philosophy, Theory, and Technique" section of the Nikon forum. I hope that's okay.</p> <p>Typo, should be "too stupid" :).</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jose_angel Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 <p>Hmmm... this is the issue with art... artists have somekind of internal power that makes them to express his/her feeling by any medium of his/her choice/knowledge. If you don`t know how to do it, I`m afraid nobody can tell you the way. But I think you already are on the right way.</p> <p>Probably some could tell how to do make post cards, documentary images, etc. but I`m afraid it could not tell your sentiments.</p> <p>Sincerely, I think it`s a very interesting topic.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_a2 Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 <p>Will you be including work on the 2000-2008 era, when the downfall of our country actually occured? ;)~</p> <p>I think the philosophy in "Technique, Theory and Philosophy" in the Nikon forums refers to different philosophies and ideas regarding use of Nikon gear, not politics. Your soapboxing doesn't belong here and clearly has nothing to do with Nikon stuff.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jose_angel Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 <p>(Partial repost?????)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy1 Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 <p>Inappropriate use of this forum, I'm afraid</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthurRichardson Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 <p>Eddy's got a point!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwphoto Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 <p>Jeffery I hope you are successful. BTW-those opinions you expressed were my views of the Bush administration.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin_delson Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 <p>While I agree with your political/social commentary, I also have to agree with the other posters; this is not the place.</p> <blockquote> <p>The question is how can these realities be portayed through the powerful medium of photography?</p> </blockquote> <p>You could have stopped right there; or, "What are some solid techniques to illustrate social condition?"</p> <p>When the question is 1/10th the size of the preface, it's usually not a question; it's preaching.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffrey_prokopowicz Posted October 18, 2009 Author Share Posted October 18, 2009 <p>I'm also wondering if music/ song would/ could be a more powerful way of expressing this subject. I write songs on acoustic guitar and can sing well enough. Maybe songwriting is a more feasible medium to use since this subject is pretty abstract and hard to pin down with say concrete photographic images. Anyway. . . .</p> <p>I wasn't sure if it was inappropriate to post here, but if so that's where the moderators could help out I assume.</p> <p>Curt, ironically I was just as angry at the Bush administration as well. It seems we've gone from extreme right to extreme left. I voted for Obama but he campaigned as a centrist and when he got in office he went extreme left. Sure I'm angry.</p> <p>Thanks for the replies but it seems I'm pretty much on my own which is not a bad thing really. Thanks again!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffrey_prokopowicz Posted October 18, 2009 Author Share Posted October 18, 2009 <p>I'm also wondering if music/ song would/ could be a more powerful way of expressing this subject. I write songs on acoustic guitar and can sing well enough. Maybe songwriting is a more feasible medium to use since this subject is pretty abstract and hard to pin down with say concrete photographic images. Anyway. . . .</p> <p>I wasn't sure if it was inappropriate to post here, but if so that's where the moderators could help out I assume.</p> <p>Curt, ironically I was just as angry at the Bush administration as well. It seems we've gone from extreme right to extreme left. I voted for Obama but he campaigned as a centrist and when he got in office he went extreme left. Sure I'm angry.</p> <p>Thanks for the replies but it seems I'm pretty much on my own which is not a bad thing really. Thanks again!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffrey_prokopowicz Posted October 18, 2009 Author Share Posted October 18, 2009 <p>I'm also wondering if music/ song would/ could be a more powerful way of expressing this subject. I write songs on acoustic guitar and can sing well enough. Maybe songwriting is a more feasible medium to use since this subject is pretty abstract and hard to pin down with say concrete photographic images. Anyway. . . .</p> <p>I wasn't sure if it was inappropriate to post here, but if so that's where the moderators could help out I assume.</p> <p>Curt, ironically I was just as angry at the Bush administration as well. It seems we've gone from extreme right to extreme left. I voted for Obama but he campaigned as a centrist and when he got in office he went extreme left. Sure I'm angry.</p> <p>Thanks for the replies but it seems I'm pretty much on my own which is not a bad thing really. Thanks again!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffrey_prokopowicz Posted October 18, 2009 Author Share Posted October 18, 2009 <p>Kevin, I think it's up to the moderators and not the posters to claim appropriateness or not.</p> <p>I wasn't preaching but I thought trying to give an idea about where my question sprang from.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_a2 Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 <blockquote> <p>Kevin wrote: When the question is 1/10th the size of the preface, it's usually not a question; it's preaching.</p> </blockquote> <p><em>BINGO</em>!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_a2 Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 <blockquote> <p>Kevin wrote: When the question is 1/10th the size of the preface, it's usually not a question; it's preaching.</p> </blockquote> <p><em>BINGO</em>!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffrey_prokopowicz Posted October 18, 2009 Author Share Posted October 18, 2009 <p>I'm also wondering if music/ song would/ could be a more powerful way of expressing this subject. I write songs on acoustic guitar and can sing well enough. Maybe songwriting is a more feasible medium to use since this subject is pretty abstract and hard to pin down with say concrete photographic images. Anyway. . . .<br> I wasn't sure if it was inappropriate to post here, but if so that's where the moderators could help out I assume.<br> Curt, ironically I was just as angry at the Bush administration as well. It seems we've gone from extreme right to extreme left. I voted for Obama but he campaigned as a centrist and when he got in office he went extreme left. Sure I'm angry.<br> Thanks for the replies but it seems I'm pretty much on my own which is not a bad thing really. Thanks again!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_a2 Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 <blockquote> <p>Kevin wrote: When the question is 1/10th the size of the preface, it's usually not a question; it's preaching.</p> </blockquote> <p><em>BINGO</em>!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin_delson Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 <blockquote> <p>Kevin, I think it's up to the moderators and not the posters to claim appropriateness or not.<br> <strong><em></em></strong></p> </blockquote> <p>Res ipsa loquitur</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin_delson Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 <blockquote> <p>Kevin, I think it's up to the moderators and not the posters to claim appropriateness or not.<br> <strong><em></em></strong></p> </blockquote> <p>Res ipsa loquitur</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan_smith9 Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 <p>Town Hall meetings will tell a great story of the concern happening in the country right now, there should be some around your area. Attend 'Tea Party' demonstrations, you will also probably have these groups in your area that you could attend. What about construction projects that are not being worked on that have been abandoned.....I know there are plenty in my area - Jacksonville, FL. While not all of these may have been 'caused' by the Obama administration, I believe the administration has not done anything yet to correct them.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmt Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 <p>I believe this is not the place for these gratuitous political comments, mr Prokopowicz.<br> <br /></p> <blockquote> <p > </p> <p >"our country"</p> </blockquote> <p >And is photo.net only intended for the United States?</p> <p >This is an honest question.</p> <p >Thanks.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmt Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 <p> <p>double post, sorry</p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmt Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 <p>double post, sorry</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andylynn Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 <p>There's enough of this on the OT board already. Posting something like this on the Nikon board and then waiting to see if a moderator kills or moves it is poor form, don't you think? A more appropriate way to do this would been to ask in one of the general or techniques boards for tips on photographing political material or events, without putting it on one side of the argument or making any politically motivated speeches.</p> <p>Or you could have asked, "How can I document the fear and misery that billionaires in the health insurance industry are feeling, as they face the prospect of becoming mere nine-hundred-million-aires?" That would be a powerful, difficult yet ironic topic.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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