arthuryeo Posted July 12, 2002 Share Posted July 12, 2002 How possible is it to use digital cameras (non-SLR ones) to do street photography? I understand that several of them can do 1/4000 shutter speeds or better, but I'm not sure how fast they can focus, though. I guess, their manual focus can also be preset using some estimates. <p>Any thots?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emre Posted July 12, 2002 Share Posted July 12, 2002 It's not the shutter speed that I would be worried about but the shutter lag. As long as the delay is tolerable, I see no reason not to use a digital P&S. Otherwise, you may be unable to take truly spontaneous pictures, but even then you can practise street photography. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_scott2 Posted July 12, 2002 Share Posted July 12, 2002 I've seen guys using the swiveling, digital Nikons for street shooting - looks like they are just fiddling with their cameras when they're really taking pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthuryeo Posted July 12, 2002 Author Share Posted July 12, 2002 Pretending to be looking at the swivel and hit the shutter instead --- that's an idea for digicam owners! Good suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkantor Posted July 13, 2002 Share Posted July 13, 2002 Considering that most of the digital cameras out there have extremely short focal length lenses, depth of field will take care of most focusing problems. And it's a lot faster to shoot from the hip than to raise something to your eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_landrigan Posted July 13, 2002 Share Posted July 13, 2002 The problem is shutter lag, more than anything else. I have been tempted by the Sony "nightshot" effect on a few, but I've yet to find a digicam that beats the ease of using my M6 or my battered Sears(Ricoh) compact RF:) I would say that the cool-pix style models are probably a better choice than most of the p&s models, althouth the LCD finder on 99% of digicams is easier to look at unnoticed than most slr finders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i want my photo.net histor Posted July 13, 2002 Share Posted July 13, 2002 Points to note. The shutter delay is fairly long and can be made worse with focus hunting. Having the LCD on will chew up the batteries. Carry extra sets. Depth of field control is also difficult with the digicams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthuryeo Posted July 13, 2002 Author Share Posted July 13, 2002 I do not own a digicam but some owners complained that the data aquisition time is longer than expected. I'm not really understanding the difference between shutter speed and data aquisition-time. Say, the shutter speed is 1/4000 sec., wouldn't it mean that the frame's data has to be captured in 1/4000 sec.? The shutter will close in 1/4000sec, so what other processing does the camera need after the shutter is closed? Even it does, it should not require the photographer to hold still since the shutter is already closed. So, why is there a shutter lag? Please shed some light on this. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emre Posted July 13, 2002 Share Posted July 13, 2002 Shutter lag is the time it takes for the camera to start recording onto film after you have pressed the shutter released. On SLRs, it is on the order of 100ms. On rangefinders, it is as low as 10ms. On point-and-shoots, it can be over a second. Shutter lag is unrelated to shutter speed. You do not have to be more still to compensate for it; you have to press the shutter earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthuryeo Posted July 13, 2002 Author Share Posted July 13, 2002 OK, I'm beginning to see it clearer now. Thanks for the hints. Tell me if this is right. <p>For SLR: shutter lag = {mirror-flip-up time + start of actual focal plane shutter movement}</p> <p>For RF: shutter lag = {start of shutter leaf movement}</p> <p>For non-SLR digicams: There isn't any mirrors either. So, why the long lag?</p> <p>If we exclude mirror-flip time, shutter lag essentially depends on how the manufacturer implement the internal mechanisms to actuate the shutter movement and this is not exactly revealed in the specs, is it?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emre Posted July 13, 2002 Share Posted July 13, 2002 Correct, and don't forget to account the time for focus acquisition, lens focusing actuation, and eye tracking (in some Canon SLRs). Of course, the actual numbers don't matter; only how fast it feels in practice. Mine was too slow, so I upgraded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sliu Posted July 14, 2002 Share Posted July 14, 2002 I wish I had his camera. But I can take photos as good as his with my P&S digital camera if I know how to use it. The most important thing is how fast that you can focus not how fast the camera can focus.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sliu Posted July 14, 2002 Share Posted July 14, 2002 Now the real photo ;-)<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
over exposure Posted July 9, 2003 Share Posted July 9, 2003 Well, I love film for his implicite approach and for his intuitive use, I don't like to mess for hours with a computer, is a total different approach, but i swear that I've taken shots with my nikon 995 withou taking to the eye, with a wide converter on, that were sick...it'a wonderful system ,and it really looks like yo're not shooting.... Not the only possibility, ok , but a good one.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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