david_h._hartman Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 If you are living on the periphery of Super Telephoto Societywith a 400/5.6 or if you are in the underclass with a 300/4.0 or4.5 you will likely find the "U" screen a pleasantexperience. The "U" screen is basically a "B"screen but with the Fresnel lens cut for a 100mm or longer lensfor the F3 and a 200mm lens or longer for the F5. Lenses like the200/4.0 IF AI & AIS Micro-Nikkor, the 180/2.8 ED(s) withtubes and even the 105/4.0 Micro-Nikkor with PN-11 gain imagebrightness with the "U" screen, the latter having aneffective focal length of 210mm at 1:1.<br><br>The Fresnel lens collects the light from the focusing screenproper and guides it to the condenser. The Fresnel and condenserlenses concentrate the light from the viewing screen and deliverit to the prism and the eye. When the Fresnel is mismatched tothe focal length of the lens the edges of the viewing image getprogressively dim. The "B" screen is designed fornormal and wide angle lenses and the edges and over all viewingexperience with long lens suffers. This is especially noticeablewith slow super telephotos. The effect works both ways so the"U" screen is very unsuited to super wide angle lensesand even unsuited to normal lenses. Any vignetting or moirephenomenon affects the focus screen image only and not the film.<br><br>There are some interesting differences between the "U"screen for the F3 and the F5. With a slow lens like the 400/5.6the F3 screens get a little gritty looking. Since the light iscollected correctly from the edges of the focus screen with a"U" screen, the grittiness at those edges is reduced.The "U" screen for the F5 causes some out of focusareas to break up into pseudo bad bokeh of the multi-line type.Occasionally multi colors can be seen. The effect is a touch likea transmission diffraction grating. This effect might be annoyingat first but the focus and viewing ease is great and in minutes Ifind I just ignore these oddities. Anyway the "B"screens are only worse. I find the dim edges of the B screenparticularly annoying with the F5 and 400/5.6.<br><br>With some lenses exposure compensation is required for the F5 asthe image in the finder is brighter and the meter cells are abovethe focusing screen. Without compensation under exposure willresult. With the F3 the meter cell is below the focus screen inthe bottom of the mirror box so no exposure compensation isneeded.<br><br>For those with faster super telephotos I cannot give glowingreports because I do not own one of those but I can say the F5"U" screen is recommended for all the AF-I and AF-Slenses longer than 300mm. The 300/2.8 ED-IF AIS (new) and AF 200/4.0DED-IF Micro may show some vignette. The "U" screen forthe F3 appears to be recommended for everything from 105mm to2000mm.<br><br>If you shoot either the 400/5.6, 300/4.0 or 4.5 or shoot anysuper telephoto lens at dawn or dusk my advice is buy a "U"screen. Your eyes will thank you!<br><br>All the best,<br><br>Dave Hartman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_himing Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 Hi Dave I have a F3 400/5.6 combo and use the "R" screen with that combination. I can highly recommend it because it still have the split image rangefinder which is really handy with the IF version of the lens. Just removing your hand a bit roughly can throw it of, but the split image is a confirmation that focus is spot on. It is also gridded like the "E" screens for composition, aligning. If you see one cheap at a camera store I urge you to try it out....... Regards Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christiaan_phleger___honol Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 Yup, I've used the U screen for years, for both the F3 and F4, using it with a 300 2.8 and 400 .28, with both the TC-14b and TC-301 on both lenses, and I really really like them. I used to switch to the H series in the F3 for nightime football and baseball, made darkness sport shooting Fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnabdas Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 This sounds delicious. Why couldn't they make one for the FM3A? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_h._hartman Posted January 27, 2004 Author Share Posted January 27, 2004 Arnab, I can�s see any reason why Nikon can�t make more types of focus screens for the FM3a and other bodies. I guess it�s a lack of demand or perceived lack of demand. Regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_h._hartman Posted January 28, 2004 Author Share Posted January 28, 2004 Jon, Years ago I had an "R" screen for my F2 but a friend nagged me till I give it to him. I just bought another and I�ll give it a shot. Best, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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