TSA Requires a Separate Screening of Cameras in Airports Now

Discussion in 'News' started by Mark Keefer, Aug 1, 2017.

  1. Since I can't afford my own jet yet and I fly every week. Guess I will be getting the TSA PreCheck asap. Getting dressed and putting the laptop away at the end of the conveyor belt is rushed enough, I don't want to deal with several thousand dollars in camera bodies and several lenses bouncing around in a tub.

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  2. Unfortunately getting TSA Pre-Check doesn't guarantee you won't get stopped and 'frisked'. I always go on a flight with the Pre-Check status -- they still often make me go through the 'stuff in your bucket' process -- just that they don't require 'shoes off'. However, the last time I flew (with TSA Pre-Check), they pulled me off the line and made me go through a full search -- when was the last time a 60-something Caucasian woman tried to take down a plane; they say random searches are done so they are not accused of profiling -- geez! And worse -- while this is being done, your bag may be 'unattended' on the belt -- that happened once and I asked them please to keep an eye on it for me (since that had my camera gear), they refused.
     
  3. The 60 something women are a very risky bunch. I remember this Monty Python skit LINK (second half of clip)

    I occasionally get a PreCheck on my ticket. I had gone through JFK with a PreCheck ticket and they pulled my bag and carefully inspected the two laptops and all my lenses including a 150-600mm, 75-200mm and an assortment of smaller lenses. The TSA agent was very nice, just doing his job. I think some airports like JFK check everything.

    Still, I think the TSA PreCheck may help have this happen less often.

    I have even seen TSA do a second check of all passengers right at the gate. You never know. I just want to lessen the risk of my lenses and gear getting scuffed up in all the handling.
     
  4. Pre check and all, last three trips, full checks on four of six flights. Frisk each time and complete unpack of full camera bag twice. Don't fly unless I must.
     
  5. Just a guss here. I don't think they're worried about the last time a 60-something Caucasian woman tried to take a down a plane as much as they are worried about the next time a 60-something Caucasian woman might take down a plane.

    Oh, and, meet LINK-COLLEEN LAROSE, born in Michigan, raised in Detroit, and convicted of terrorism-related crimes, currently serving time in federal prison. She's only 54 but, by your standards, she would have come really close to receiving the white woman pass.
     
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  6. To be fair to Larose, a.k.a. Jihad Jane, she was never charged or convicted of being involved in a plot to sabotage an airliner. LaRose was charged with trying to recruit Islamic terrorists to wage violent Jihad and of plotting to murder the Swedish artist Lars Vilks, who had drawn a cartoon of the Islamic prophet, Muhammad.

    The entire TSA search-and-delay program is a very expensive farce. Question: How many real attempts or plots by a passenger have been prevented by TSA procedures. Answer: None that we know of (and TSA doesn't publish statistics). In terms of risk probabilities, where are you at the highest risk of violent death: while in an airliner, while in your car, while in on a train, while outside in a thunderstorm, while walking down a street in a major city's "rough" neighbourhood? Hint: while in an airliner is the SAFEST place to be. There is a place for airport screen, but not the system that exists now. Currently, its a shotgun approach that impacts many people, often results in injustice against innocent travelers and doesn't thwart real terrorists.

    I suppose the next step will be for the TSA to imitate the massacre of the Cathars (a Protestant sect) in 1209. The local Catholics protected the Cathars from the Papal army so that the soldiers could not identify the Cathars. So, to ensure the peace and spiritual safety of the village of Béziers, the Papal legate gave the order for the final assault: Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius. "Kill them [all]. For the Lord knows those that are his own." (Also translated as "Kill them all; let God sort them out.")
     
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  7. DrBen, to be fair, I wasn't promoting the sanity of the TSA program, which I agree is a farce. I was questioning the wisdom of excluding 60-year-old white women from whatever restrictions or suspicions may help law enforcement or the military protect us.
     
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  8. LOL! :D
     
  9. I wonder when this goes into effect. I just traveled with a full two-body rig and lenses from 14mm to 500mm. As usual, I just left them in the ThinkTank roller bag and let them go through the carry-on bag screening. No eyebrow was raised.
     
  10. On my last long flight on Air India from Delhi to Chicago (17 hours or so), I was concussed, bleeding, and in a wheel chair, and thereby by-passed most security.

    Like the commercial bus trip in 1961 from Kansas to Sacramento, I'm thinking this is an experience I won't repeat. It was the Thuggi - that's my story and I'm sticking to it!
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    Faust. How comes it then that thou art out of hell?
    Meph. Why this is hell, nor am I out of it.​
     
  11. Not pretty. ;-)

    Glad you made it through.
     
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  13. Four or five flights a year, so not a frequent flyer. Never been frisked. The only times I've seen anyone searched was a young Chinese girl whose clothes were so tight a bandaid could have been detected and an old blue haired Jewish lady. Probably the only sure way to avoid a TSA search would be to change name to Muhamid.
     
  14. Given the prejudice of so much of Western society and also embedded in your "joke," I doubt anyone would change their name to Muhammad to avoid trouble.
     
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  15. Get back to us on prejudice, Fred, after we all have seen how San Francisco greets the non violent Patriot Prayer Rally there this week end.
     
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  16. If you travel a lot, or would simply rather take the short line, you can sign up for the US Preferred Traveler program, aka., GOES. You can keep your shoes, keep your belt, and keep your laptop and cameras in their respective bags. GOES is, in effect, an intensive pre-check, which includes a photograph, fingerprints, and a background check by the FBI. You apply for pre-clearance, then schedule an interview with TSA. You are issued an RFID card (in a foil pouch), and include your registration number when you make a booking.

    Even without GOES, I would get preferred treatment at most civilized airports (California, Florida and Massachusetts excluded) due to my age. There is no age requirement for GOES.
     
  17. Spearhead

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    We greeted it with an afternoon of music at City Hall. What's your point?
     
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  18. BTW, leaving Detroit, for the first time, this Wednesday, I had to pull my camera bodies out of the bag. The guy attending, also had me pull out one lens, out of three loose in the bag. I was transferring from an International flight and that may have had some impact.
     
  19. i was told that camera lenses appear black in xrays.
     
  20. I've always wanted to spend some Sunday in the courthouse, passing various objects through the Xray machine, and see what they look like in an Xray.
     

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