daniel_luu_van_lang Posted May 31, 2002 Share Posted May 31, 2002 Hi All,For quite a long time, I was looking for a brown toner that could provide the same tone as very olds albumen prints, unsuccessfully!Yesterday, I tried Tea...and it works great! The border is toned too, so the print looks like an old one (FB paper, of course).Aesthetic is great, but what's about longevity? does the tea attack the image? anybody has an experience? any feedback would be great!!Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armin_seeholzer Posted May 31, 2002 Share Posted May 31, 2002 Hi Daniel <p> I did tea tonings 15 years ago and they still look okay. Tea is quite an old trick so it should be okay! <p> Good light! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arne_croell Posted May 31, 2002 Share Posted May 31, 2002 It should be pretty stable. I have done it, too, as long as twenty years ago, and the color is still there. Just think about how hard it is to remove tea stains from fabrics.... Tea actually is not a toner in the sense that it alters the color of the image-forming silver, like a sulfide toner does, but it is adiscoloration of the base (paper and gelatin coating). The black silver image is unaffected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_freeman Posted May 31, 2002 Share Posted May 31, 2002 I do not have experiance using it like the other two posters, but according to professors that I had at the art institute of boston, they all said that it is not archival. But hey, who cares. Print it again in 25 years if it starts to look a little gloomy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy_sorlien Posted May 31, 2002 Share Posted May 31, 2002 Sally Mann tones with tea. Coffee works, too, as I discovered when my brother spilled an extra-large cup of it all over a table where I had 30 of my 8x10 prints spread out. He managed to hit every print! <p> I've tried tea a few times. The best kind to use are the cheap, garden-variety black teas, as they have the most tannin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_moulton7 Posted May 31, 2002 Share Posted May 31, 2002 At a workshop a few years ago Jay Dusard demonstrated tea toning using simple bags of instant tea (he joked that Tetley was the photographer's tea de jour!). Anyways, the process worked quite well. An added feature is that tea, unlike some toners, possesses few toxic and environmentally harmful ingredients. Try drinking Selenium toner sometime. <p> Asked whether or ot the process was archival Dusard or his co-teacher Michael Schultz pointed to oriental papers toned with tea that had lasted a few thousand years. <p> Seriously, the process is well worth an afternoon's experiment. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel_luu_van_lang Posted May 31, 2002 Author Share Posted May 31, 2002 Thank you for your contribution, as usual, this forum is very helpful for any concern one may have! Regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan brewer Posted May 31, 2002 Share Posted May 31, 2002 Is Black tea something that is marked on the package? Or is just marked tea? Is instant coffee going to work? or are we talking about percolating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_kasaian2 Posted May 31, 2002 Share Posted May 31, 2002 FWIW, I've had spilled coffee take the little blue lines right off ordinary binder paper. It was pretty bad coffee though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy_sorlien Posted May 31, 2002 Share Posted May 31, 2002 Jonathan, <p> I don't think it usually says black tea. Any cheapo regular tea is good - Tetley, Master Choice, Milford, Lipton. It doesn't work on RC paper. Couldn't tell ya about the coffee. Get in there and experiment! <p> Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domenico_foschi Posted May 31, 2002 Share Posted May 31, 2002 Try also some green tea , good one . fresly brewed, and tone your paper with it! Also try different dilutions , mix it with coffe, experiment, have fun , and remember that tea usually lowers the conrtrast of the image, so print accordingly. It is a great medium... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan brewer Posted May 31, 2002 Share Posted May 31, 2002 I will try this......Domenico did you get my j-peg safe and sound, if so, e-mail me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_elder1 Posted June 1, 2002 Share Posted June 1, 2002 Tom Baril, photographer and master printer, formerly Mapplethorp'sprinter, tones his prints with tea. They are beautiful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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