gary van schaick Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 The Tokina 12-24/F4 has now trickled into the market place and isbeing constantly sold out. Does anyone have any experience with it yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank uhlig Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 Why exclude the full frame Sigma 12-24 here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmanthree Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 Maybe he's partial to Tokina and Nikon? Maybe he's had a bad experience with Sigma? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_muntz Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 I've seen a lot written on the Nikon and the Sigma, but no tests on the new Tokina. I'm interested too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryan_lardizabal Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 Some more information for you, but it looks like the jury is still out on this new lens http://www.nikonians.org/dcforum/DCForumID17/1113.html http://www.nikonians.org/dcforum/DCForumID17/1119.html#7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_nancarrow Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 Although I don't own the Tokina 12-24, but do own the Nikon, I can give an educated guess as to the differences...The Tokina will have very similar performance at all focal lengths and f stops except for 12mm and wide open, here the Nikon will slightly surpass it; the Tokina will be heavier, good because it signals build quality, bad because the Nikon can perform as well/better with less weight; the Tokina, if a screw focus vs Nikon's AFS will focus slightly slower, be slightly noisier, and use slightly more battery life than the Nikon; I suspect resale of used lens will be similar, you would expect to lose about 20% of the new value should you sell. I believe it's priced right for the few differences it has with the Nikon. Bob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey_edelstein1 Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 Practical Photography Magazine in the UK picked the Sigma full frame 12-24mm the lens of the year, so throw it into this discussion. Also, since so many d70 users purchase the 18-70mm kit lens, perhaps, a 10-18mm lens would be more useful to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglas_greenberg Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 Some people are wary of the Sigma 12-24mm. zoom because its unusual "Popeye" design makes using filters difficult. I own the lens and the filter issue is not important to me. Optically, it's a very good lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivek iyer Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 Here, vbd70 has posted some "tests": http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034&message=11824506 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey_edelstein1 Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 The latest Shutterbug magazine has an extensive article on the Sigma 12-24mm. Not so much a test report as a photo layout showing a field trip to the arabian desert. The author found the lens useful on both film and digital cameras. I think the lens is an HSM silent wave drive like the AFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_chappell Posted January 16, 2005 Share Posted January 16, 2005 I've used he Sigma 12-24 for several months, and like it a lot. It does have a silent internal-motor HSM (similar to AFS) focus system. As Douglas said, front filters won't work with this lens (although in theory you can use the strange lenscap to mount an 82?? mm filter that can function at the long end of the zoom range on a sub-frame DSLR). It's not fast (maximum f4.5) but it's very surprisingly sharp and has amazingly low distortion. It's physically rather large, and seems well built -- although not as elegant as a top-tier Nikon or Canon lens. Caveat: I have not used this lens on a film camera, but it works very well on a 1.3X crop factor DSLR (Canon 1D). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhonemotorsport Posted January 17, 2005 Share Posted January 17, 2005 I have the Tokina, returned the Nikon. From someone who has used both here goes. Image quality almost exactly the same. Build quality, goes slightly to the Tokina. Focus speed goes slightly to the Nikon. (lack of) distortion a toss up. While the Nikon has less distortion at 12mm than the Tokina, the distortion of the Tokina is what I EXPECT to see, so it's almost welcomed in my opinion. The lack of the distortion in the Nikon gave made me always check and see if I was at 12mm....Oh the last thing that REALLY annoyed me. the Nikon zooms in the opposite direction than any other zoom I have ever used, which makes it couter intuitive to use. The Tokina is a dream to use and at 1/2 the price, was a no brainer.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary van schaick Posted January 18, 2005 Author Share Posted January 18, 2005 John, Thank you for the information. This is what I was hoping for. I have one on order now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alvin_chow1 Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 Could you clarify what you mean by the Tokina having distortion you'd expect to see? As in, it has normal spherical barrel distortion that can be easily corrected, unlike the Nikon's "mustache" type distortion? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibnujang_. Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/digital-wide-zooms/comparison.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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