25asa Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 I will call to confirm this tomorrow, but I got info from a big lab in Vancouver BC that TMAX 120 films (both 100 and 400) have been discontinued. I assume this happened in October last year when they also killed the UC films in 120. I'll get back on this. This does not effect 35mm as far as I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 Kodak who ? I only support Ilford and Fuji now. Kodak, does not really care about consumers. Is it not obvious by now that kodak only goal is to please stockholders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
db1 Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 Scott, please let us know as soon as you find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25asa Posted March 26, 2007 Author Share Posted March 26, 2007 While Im at it Im going to ask if TX 400 is still being made in 120. I would expect that to be killed too, but Im hoping it isn't. TX 400 is my favorite B&W 400 speed film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Kahn Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 I couldn't find anything on the Kodak site about this. B&H still shows them "in stock and available". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25asa Posted March 26, 2007 Author Share Posted March 26, 2007 Dont trust the website. It often is not updated with new info on changes. As per the TMAX films, I'll confirm whether this info is true or not tomorrow. My original source is a lab and not a store chain or Kodak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stwrtertbsratbs5 Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 Why do you think that a big lab in Vancouver BC is a reliable source of information about Kodak film manufacturing plans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25asa Posted March 26, 2007 Author Share Posted March 26, 2007 Im not saying they are reliable, hence my comment saying Im confirming this tomorrow. They were the ones that tipped me to this since they tried to order this from Kodak and couldnt any longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karl_borowski Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 Frankly, with Kodak's "we won't say 'til we fvcking run out" policy, the kid at the 1-hour photo is a more reliable source of information. Thanks for being straight with your consumer base Kodak. We appreciate it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25asa Posted March 26, 2007 Author Share Posted March 26, 2007 Well Im hardly a kid at 37, but yes Kodak should have been more forthcoming with this info. Im also aware the UC films have been killed off. I just cringe at what other films are gone we yet are not aware of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randall ellis Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 I've heard a number of reports like this when a lab or shop decides to stop carrying a certain film - they tell their customers that it has been discontinued as a reason to either get them to buy what they will stock, or just because the person at the counter misunderstood or was misinformed. I would counsel patience here until someone at Kodak can confirm the report. - Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 TMAX is largely a studio film. How many studios shoot film B&W? I just hope that Tri-X and Plus-X are not discontinued... before I can by 1,000 rolls of each, that is. Maybe that time is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_appleyard Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 "How many studios shoot film B&W?" I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen sullivan Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 1st Scott, why don't you call first, before posting such statement? 2nd Killed UC 100 & 400 in 120 last October? Why does the Kodak website http://www.kodak.com/ still list the film as available in 5PK's? see http://kodak.com/global/en/professional/products/films/ultraColor/sizes.jhtml?id=0.2.24.14.7.16.8&lc=en 3rd Scott, do you really think that Kodak will discontinue a film such as TMX, TMY, PX or TX without telling people first that they'd do so? For instance, how many months notice did we have that Kodak was getting out of traditional B&W paper? Someone please remind me, was it about 6 months to a year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25asa Posted March 26, 2007 Author Share Posted March 26, 2007 Stephen- I jumped the gun when I posted this. I was in the process of calling Kodak at the time and their call center just closed. Secondly its been confirmed that 100UC and 400UC was discontinued last October in 120 rolls. Kodak confirmed this when called, but they never posted a release on this. These films are now out of stock in the warehouse and many stores have been out of stock for a while now. Yet no announcement by Kodak. I read Kodak laid off their web person in charge of posting these announcements. Third- read second. Kodak still lists the films they killed late last year, yet they also confirmed they were killed off when asked. I can only guess what other products are no longer available that we do not know about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User_502260 Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 I have only started to enjoy using 120 film in SLR cameras in the last few years. Whether you are talking about slide film or 220 film or 120 film, anything used heavily by professionals is going first. These are the people who switched to digital equipment earliest. There must be very few amateurs shooting roll film and even fewer shooting b&w roll film. I am not optimistic about Kodak's future in film or anything else. I will enjoy using medium format equipment for as long as I can. 35mm stock should be around a while longer because so many people still have the equipment for it. Not long from now I expect to be shooting most color stuff with a digital camera and most b&w stuff on film. This will work as long as my supply of b&w film holds out and as long as paper is still made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25asa Posted March 26, 2007 Author Share Posted March 26, 2007 I'll add that all the retail stores that have this film have stock on it, so there is a good chance this film is not discontinued. I'll see what Kodak says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen sullivan Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 Looks like, you're correct on the UC in 120. Adorama and BHphoto doesn't list the film on their website. I have found it listed at my local lab http://www.glazerscamera.com/ They still list the UC100 & UC400 in 120 as available in the Pro 5PK. Naughty Kodak. If true, we count on you for telling us what's available and soon to be unavailable, so that we, the buying public can plan accordingly. Sorry about the UC Scott, but please, if the TMX & TMY holds to be ture or not true, please hold off until the facts are in. With today's climate, gossip, scandals and falsehoods spread faster than the truth. Stephen PS: When available, provide an official company link that states the fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25asa Posted March 26, 2007 Author Share Posted March 26, 2007 Thanks Stephen- I'll refrain from advanced postings before I can confirm by calling Kodak to get info. I seemed to have pissed off a couple of people on APUG with this same posting. I wont do that again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christiaan_phleger___honol Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 Yeah, but thanks to Scott, I was able to put in a call to my Kodak dealer and hopefull score some of the remaining rolls of UC still upstream. It does help to sound the alarm, even tho' it may seem like rumors, to those of us who use it on a professional basis and need to obtain as much of the film as possible, as soon as possible. I don't use a lot of Tmax, but Tmax 100 is one that I've recently found a few good looks in 35mm and I would need to stock up on it in 120, so the heads up now makes the difference. Thanks Scott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25asa Posted March 26, 2007 Author Share Posted March 26, 2007 Ok. Before I make an ass out of myself any further, I'll call Kodak to get info. Maybe they'll be nice enough to tell me about other films too. The UC one made sense since the Portra films are similar in look. If TMAX is gone I would suspect because Tri-X sells better. Now this phone call seems more important then before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_viapiano Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Another scare rumor...he started a thread like this on APUG as well. Until it comes from the horse's mouth, don't listen to guys like this...don't you have anything better to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_the_builder1 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 They will love this over at APUG - those guys hate Kodak as much as digital. Seems to be an Ilford only shop from what I have seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randall ellis Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 It's a good thing no one on this site ever bad mouths Kodak... - R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25asa Posted March 27, 2007 Author Share Posted March 27, 2007 Well I got the info from Kodak. Looks like the lab was mistaken (and me for listenning). TMAX was discontinued only in 220 and the catalog numbers were changed for the 120 rolls. Sorry about this guys. I wont report news again till I confirm with Kodak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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