Tilt/Swing?

Me again-

What are the camera techniques "tilt" and "swing"? There is geometry involved in the formulas, however I'm confused as to what each does for the photo.

-Angela-

You really ought to look through the many basic discussions housed on

the first page of this site and invest in a copy of Ansel Adams "The

Camera", Stoebel's "View Camera Technique" or Simmon's "Using the

View Camera" before provoking those that haunt this site. See also

the following links:

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http://www.speedlink.com/jao/photo/viewcam.htm

http://www.f32.com/articles/art011.htm

http://www.f32.com/articles/art012.htm

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/photo/large/intro/introduction.html

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People are very helpful on this site once you've shown a little

evidence of having done some homework.

I'm real new to Large Format too. But after even hearing the words

Swing and Tilt and then that Shalajkhfiuhajhf Theory I was spinning

forget swing and tilt. So I just sat down and looked through the

glass. I actually watched TV through it. Saw what happened when I did

what. Then after a week of that I moved on to the books. Still no

help. Watched more TV. Took some pictures. Realized I knew nothing.

Then just used the camera like it had no movements at all. I didn't

figure out Swing and Tilt for a few months -- then I discovered

Circle...

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Just a view from some one who now knows he knows not very much.

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Dean

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Angela, Welcome to the traumatic world of LF!!

For a basic, no nonsense look at various camera movements the Toyo

site (www.toyoview.com I think!!) is well worth a visit.

Persevere, the struggle is worth it!!

Regards Paul

Angela;

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First, I would like to agree with Mr. Brewster. There is simply no

substitute for doing your own homework. And, he suggested the best

texts on the subject.

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That being said; yes, there is a great deal of geometry involved.

You do not want to get into the mathematics of the Scheimpflug Rule

or the Hinge Rule just yet.

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On a very basic level, what swing/tilt movements do is this: for a

given film plane, the front swing/tilt movements rotate the plane of

sharp focus about a line called the Scheimpflug Line. Remember that

two or more planes intersect at a line, not a point.

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If I have not worded this explanation correctly, I invite

corrections. I am just now learning the theory myself.

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Jason Kefover

At first this can seem a bit overwhelming, but with a few

publications, some practice and working with someone who has already

mastered this makes it so much easier... soon you will wonder what

you were so confused about! Some books are excellent on this

subject. My only advise is this, do not get to carried away with

this, most people only use a few movements at the most. Unless you

are doing complex studio work, you rarely will use more than front

tilt... while rise and shift are self explantory and is clearly

visual throught the gg. ...

Hi Angela, it might me helpful if you throw out a few examples of the

kinds of things you want to take pictures of, then you can get some

specific examples of how these folks use the movements on their

cameras. Not all of these people photograph the same kind of

subjects, and the subject matter can really dictate just what

movements you need to master. Front and rear tilts and swings, rises

and falls probably mean different things to a landscape photographer

than they do to a table top photographer. For portrait photography,

full on head and sholders stuff, I guess you won't need to know much.

But if you are out in nature and you want the foreground and the

background in focus at the same time, then you might want to know

something about tilts and swings and the pros and cons of tilting the

front vs. tilting the back. So, is your question a

philosophical/theoretical question, or is there something you

specifically have in mind that you want to photograph in a specific

way? Best regards, David