charles_miller5 Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 Yes, for laughs I picked up a very clean and possibly functional Traid Fotron, just to hold the thing one time... What was Traid Corp thinking? Is this enormous, tastelessly sculpted brick for real? Do you think they actually intended to take consumer-level photography by storm, or was this (as the story goes) just a con-job to defraud people door-to-door? I mean, if it was a lightweight and fragile plastic box, I could more readily accept the fraud idea... But this gigantic thing weighs 3 pounds easily, and is cram-packed with mysterious technology. By "mysterious" I don't mean ALIEN technology, necessarily, but "mysterious" as in WHY THE HECK DID THEY DO IT? I don't suppose there's any way to use this King Kong today, with its sealed 828 film cartridge only processed by Traid Corp (which mercifully stopped making the things). But has anybody tried to jerry-rig a film cartridge and process a few pics with the Fotron? I'd like to see the results and hear any other comments on the monstrosity. :) Charles Miller Kings Mountain, NC<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen_kruft Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 I remember that, in the early 60s, these were sold door to door, I think for something like $400 in 60s dollars, and I remember seeing the film for them in cartridges. I have no idea how well they worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen hazelton Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 My perception of the vacuum cleaners, cookware, etc. that is sold door-to-door is that it is pretty decent stuff, but sold at maybe three times what it is worth- and contrary to the sales claims, not nearly as unique as they make it out. It looks like that camera has a built in flash? That alone could have added some hefty weight at one time- I know I bought a fairly small old flash that probably weighed two pounds. Did it possibly have the flash intensity connected to the focusing and/or aperture trying to get auto-flash operation? That could account for a lot of complexity if done back then and on a small scale. (Weren't most TV's sold then still tube-type?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles_miller5 Posted April 12, 2006 Author Share Posted April 12, 2006 Well, this is late 1960s technology, which was transistorized (not tube), but by no means is this thing micro-miniaturized. The Fotron in the picture above is a solid 9" long (including hand strap) x 5" tall x 3" thick. The camera has a built-in flash, is rechargeable (with multiple internal capacitors and a kitchen appliance-sized power cord), and has a built-in power winder. The Fotron owner manual describes the indicator lights as "neon" and describes the camera as programmable (you select distance by push button control). And this thing was on the street years before other cameras went all-electric. Sheesh. To me, the Fotron is a real enigma, but I can understand its failure---this is just NOT a practical size or weight for a recreational camera, especially when the competition was a 6 oz Kodak Instamatic. Charles Miller Kings Mountain, NC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pshinkaw Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 I have read the allegations of it being a con-job. However, it may have been intended to defraud investors and people in the distribution chain as much as end-users. The one I have is missing the battery, and it is still very heavy. I wonder what is actually inside. -Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_b.1 Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 I found this account of the Class Action Suit brought by the purchasers of these cameras. http://online.ceb.com/CalCases/CA3/28CA3d332.htm It seems they purchased the cameras for $491 (a lot of dough back then)...The cameras were misrepresented and the value was determinened to be $40. They sued to have the difference refunded. Doesn't say what the outcome was. In the 80's I used to see them all the time in the thrift-store bargain bins. A sad ending for a $491 camera. Caveat Emptor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jd_rose Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 I am pretty sure the many TVs produced in the 1960s had a myriad of tubes. I think transistors were just being put into small radios. Onward; why in the heck would you give $491 to anyone that just showed up at your door. I think the buyers kind of deserved what they got. Always know, read, and study before you buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles_miller5 Posted April 13, 2006 Author Share Posted April 13, 2006 Well, yes, most televisions in the 60s were still tube-type, and we had a tube-type TV well into the 1970s... But that doesn't mean it was the cutting edge of technology. The cutting edge was transistor technology (developed by Texas Instruments in the late 1940s), which is what allowed us to start miniaturizing radios, TVs, computers and cameras, among other things. Within the context of this thread, I think the suggestion was that the Traid Fotron might somehow be a product of tube-type technology; and my contention was that the Fotron, bulky as it was, was more likely a product of transistor technology, given all of the features crammed into it. :) Charles Miller Kings Mountain, NC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
profhlynnjones Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 Hi Charles, It was pig, scammed lots of people, with tax at about $500. The film was 1"x1" on 828 film in a proprietary cartridge. It probably has value as a historical collectors item. It was sold door to door, but is was no Electrolux, or Avon, or Fuller Brush, the law suits ruled. Lynn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marge_mcelroy Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 There was so much negative about this camera, I thought I'd put in something positive. My late husband bought one from a man at his work. Yes, it was heavy and complicated to get the pictures developed, but the strobe enabled me to take pictures of the stage in a theater from clear back in a middle row. The color was great, and we really enjoyed it for quite a long time. They had a special on film, so I bought 3 boxes. The camera never worked again. We were very disappointed, but we had several years of very enjoyable pictures from it. (Of course there was no one local to even look at it to see why it quit.) I came across it the other day up on a closet shelf, just sitting there in its leather case.......waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leona_helton Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 I have the Traid Fotron, that my parents bought. I recived it when they passed away.I know that they paid quite a bit of money for it. I used it alot after I recived it. But one day the company was there and then the next they were out of bussiness.It may look like a monster to use now, but it really was quite simple and easy to handle and took wonderful pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_johnson34 Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 I have NO answers. My mother worked for the company in the 60's. When I saw a LOT of various cameras on Ebay, the Fotron was one of them, I knew I had to bid. I won the auction at about $20.00 I was happy. My mother was proud of her new job and the camera she was making until all of the flak came about. She of course lost her job when the bad flak started. I don't remember if she bought one or not, just memories. bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdm Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 AWSOME .. I want one , does anyone have any negatives or prints they can scan to show? also anyone have one laying around they may want to donate to me ..heheh.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdm Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 <p>i did just acquire a cartridge of color slide film for the camera that used proprietary cartridges and this shows the backing paper and because the camera it does not say anywhere on the cartrage or box what type of film it is, but i think it might be Kodachrome and im looking for an 828 camera to use the film in, even tho its in a cartridge i think i can re roll it onto a spool after cracking open the cartridge.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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