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The 1D X and confusing naming conventions

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In Nikonland, X signifies a high resolution model. In Canonland, X signifies the importance of speed and ISO performance. In

Nikonland those qualities would be designated by an S. But as we all know, in Canonland S means high resolution. Confused yet?

Don't worry, it gets better!

 

In Canonland, numbers come before letters. In Nikonland... Oh, never mind.

 

In Nikonland, DX means "small sensor with small, noisy pixels." In Canonland, 1D X means "large sensor with large, clean pixels."

 

Gee whiz, camera makers! Could you make it any more confusing?

 

I heard that if you hold a Nikon up to a mirror that it looks like a Canin, and vice versa. Has anybody tried this?

 

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JDMvW

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<p>Actually a "Canin" is a bunny ( http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/31/european-rabbit-hopping-c_n_1067290.html not to mention earlier post here on P.net).</p>

<p>If you truly want to see the state of confusion, here is a list of the Canon EOS film models by date of introduction:</p>

<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="589">

<colgroup><col width="65"></col> <col width="164"></col> <col width="138"></col> <col width="136"></col> <col width="86"></col> </colgroup>

<tbody>

<tr height="12">

<td width="65" height="12"></td>

<td width="164">Model (US)</td>

<td width="138">Model (Europe)</td>

<td width="136">Model (Japan)</td>

<td width="86">Release date</td>

</tr>

<tr height="12">

<td height="12"></td>

<td>EOS 650</td>

<td>EOS 650</td>

<td>EOS 650</td>

<td align="right">Mar-87</td>

</tr>

<tr height="12">

<td height="12"></td>

<td>EOS 620</td>

<td>EOS 620</td>

<td>EOS 620</td>

<td align="right">May-87</td>

</tr>

<tr height="12">

<td height="12"></td>

<td>EOS 750</td>

<td>EOS 750</td>

<td>EOS 750</td>

<td align="right">Oct-88</td>

</tr>

<tr height="12">

<td height="12"></td>

<td>EOS 850</td>

<td>EOS 850</td>

<td>EOS 850</td>

<td align="right">Oct-88</td>

</tr>

<tr height="12">

<td height="12"></td>

<td>EOS 630</td>

<td>EOS 600</td>

<td>EOS 630 QD</td>

<td align="right">Apr-89</td>

</tr>

<tr height="12">

<td height="12"></td>

<td>EOS-1</td>

<td>EOS-1</td>

<td>EOS-1</td>

<td align="right">Sep-89</td>

</tr>

<tr height="12">

<td height="12"></td>

<td>EOS RT</td>

<td>EOS RT</td>

<td>EOS RT</td>

<td align="right">Oct-89</td>

</tr>

<tr height="12">

<td height="12"></td>

<td>EOS 10s</td>

<td>EOS 10</td>

<td>EOS 10 QD</td>

<td align="right">Mar-90</td>

</tr>

<tr height="12">

<td height="12"></td>

<td>EOS 700</td>

<td>EOS 700</td>

<td>EOS 700 QD</td>

<td align="right">Mar-90</td>

</tr>

<tr height="12">

<td height="12"></td>

<td>EOS Rebel/Rebel S</td>

<td>EOS 1000F QD</td>

<td>EOS 1000 QD</td>

<td align="right">Oct-90</td>

</tr>

<tr height="12">

<td height="12"></td>

<td>EOS 10s commemorative kit</td>

<td>EOS 10</td>

<td>EOS 10 QD</td>

<td align="right">Aug-91</td>

</tr>

<tr height="12">

<td height="12"></td>

<td>EOS Elan</td>

<td>EOS 100</td>

<td>EOS 100 QD</td>

<td align="right">Aug-91</td>

</tr>

<tr height="12">

<td height="12"></td>

<td>EOS Rebel II/SII</td>

<td>EOS 1000FN QD</td>

<td>EOS 1000S QD</td>

<td align="right">Mar-92</td>

</tr>

<tr height="12">

<td height="12"></td>

<td>EOS A2/A2e</td>

<td>EOS 5</td>

<td>EOS 5 QD</td>

<td align="right">Nov-92</td>

</tr>

<tr height="12">

<td height="12"></td>

<td>EOS Rebel XS</td>

<td>EOS 500</td>

<td>EOS Kiss</td>

<td align="right">Sep-93</td>

</tr>

<tr height="12">

<td height="12"></td>

<td>EOS Rebel X</td>

<td>-</td>

<td>-</td>

<td align="right">Nov-93</td>

</tr>

<tr height="12">

<td height="12"></td>

<td>EOS-1N</td>

<td>EOS-1N/1N HS/1N DP</td>

<td>EOS-1N/1N HS/1N DP</td>

<td align="right">Nov-94</td>

</tr>

<tr height="12">

<td height="12"></td>

<td>-</td>

<td>EOS 5000</td>

<td>EOS 888</td>

<td align="right">Jan-95</td>

</tr>

<tr height="12">

<td height="12"></td>

<td>EOS-1N RS</td>

<td>EOS-1N RS</td>

<td>EOS-1N RS</td>

<td align="right">Mar-95</td>

</tr>

<tr height="12">

<td height="12"></td>

<td>EOS Elan II/IIe</td>

<td>EOS 50/50e</td>

<td>EOS 55</td>

<td align="right">Sep-95</td>

</tr>

<tr height="12">

<td height="12"></td>

<td>EOS Rebel G</td>

<td>EOS 500N</td>

<td>New EOS Kiss</td>

<td align="right">Sep-96</td>

</tr>

<tr height="12">

<td height="12"></td>

<td>EOS IX</td>

<td>EOS IX</td>

<td>EOS IX E</td>

<td align="right">Oct-96</td>

</tr>

<tr height="12">

<td height="12"></td>

<td>EOS IX Lite</td>

<td>EOS IX 7</td>

<td>EOS IX 50</td>

<td align="right">Mar-98</td>

</tr>

<tr height="12">

<td height="12"></td>

<td>EOS-3</td>

<td>EOS-3</td>

<td>EOS-3</td>

<td align="right">Nov-98</td>

</tr>

<tr height="12">

<td height="12"></td>

<td>-</td>

<td>EOS 3000</td>

<td>EOS 88</td>

<td align="right">Mar-99</td>

</tr>

<tr height="12">

<td height="12"></td>

<td>EOS Rebel 2000</td>

<td>EOS 300</td>

<td>EOS Kiss III</td>

<td align="right">Apr-99</td>

</tr>

<tr height="12">

<td height="12"></td>

<td>EOS-1v</td>

<td>EOS-1v</td>

<td>EOS-1v</td>

<td align="right">Mar-00</td>

</tr>

<tr height="12">

<td height="12"></td>

<td>EOS Elan 7/7e</td>

<td>EOS 33/30</td>

<td>EOS 7</td>

<td align="right">Oct-00</td>

</tr>

<tr height="12">

<td height="12"></td>

<td>-</td>

<td>-</td>

<td>EOS Kiss III L</td>

<td align="right">Nov-01</td>

</tr>

<tr height="12">

<td height="12"></td>

<td>EOS Rebel XS N</td>

<td>EOS 3000N</td>

<td>Canon EOS 66</td>

<td align="right">Feb-02</td>

</tr>

<tr height="12">

<td height="12"></td>

<td>EOS Rebel Ti</td>

<td>EOS 300V</td>

<td>EOS Kiss 5</td>

<td align="right">Sep-02</td>

</tr>

<tr height="12">

<td height="12"></td>

<td>EOS Rebel GII</td>

<td>-</td>

<td>-</td>

<td align="right">Mar-03</td>

</tr>

<tr height="12">

<td height="12"></td>

<td>EOS Rebel K2</td>

<td>EOS 3000V</td>

<td>EOS Kiss Lite</td>

<td align="right">Sep-03</td>

</tr>

<tr height="12">

<td height="12"></td>

<td>EOS Elan 7N/7NE</td>

<td>EOS 33V/30V</td>

<td>EOS 7s</td>

<td align="right">Apr-04</td>

</tr>

<tr height="12">

<td height="12"></td>

<td>EOS Rebel T2</td>

<td>EOS 300X</td>

<td>EOS Kiss 7</td>

<td align="right">Sep-04</td>

</tr>

</tbody>

</table>

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<blockquote>

<p>Actually a "Canin" is a bunny ( <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/31/european-rabbit-hopping-c_n_1067290.html" target="_blank">(link)</a></p>

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<p>A <a href="http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaninchen"><strong>K</strong>anin(chen)</a> might be a bunny, but a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_dog">canine</a> is what makes a bunny hop ;-)</p>

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<blockquote>

<p>In Nikonland, X signifies a high resolution model. In Canonland, X signifies the importance of speed and ISO performance. In Nikonland those qualities would be designated by an S.</p>

</blockquote>

<p>In Nikonland the "H" in the D1H and D2H was the higher fps and lower megapixel model. The "X" as in the D1X, D2X, and D3X is the high res lower fps model. The lower case "s" means a minor revision midway through the lifecycle of the product. D300s added video and dual card slots. D3s added a new sensor w/ same resolution but lower noise and video.</p>

 

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<p>Bob,</p>

<p>From an engineering point of view, ignoring a basic convention like which way a screw screws, makes no sense. And whilst Canon is not the be all and end all of cameras lets not forget that until Canon driven market forces forced Nikon to make high resolution cameras, and FF ones, Nikon were content to insist we didn't need them.</p>

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<blockquote>

<p>Nope, Nikon lenses are turned the right way, you just have to be behind the camera where you belong, then lefty-loosey and righty-tighty applies. :)</p>

 

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<p>Who changes lenses whilst looking through the viewfinder? It's like crawling underneath the sink to turn a tap on.</p>

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<p>Mhmm... delicious post :)<br>

In Nikonland it use to be one digit for pro cameras (i.e. F5, D3) the "hundreds" for semipro (i.e. F100, D200) and the "tens" (F80, N80, D80) for amateurs (or "advanced" amateurs). A few years they came up with the thousands, which in the beginning they were a kind of point and shoot with plastic surgery :) Now they have the D7000 which kills a D90 for example. If one camera maker can't be consistent in it's own nomenclature, we can't expect to have a "standard for all"<br>

@<a href="../photodb/user?user_id=6610644">Smooth Carrots</a>: you usually don't change the lens with the viewfinder towards you to look into it. You change the lens that way to have your camera ready as fast as you can for the next shot. If you shoot still subjects that's not a problem, but when you shoot action you really need it.</p>

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<p>It is not difficult to rotate the lens either way when changing lenses, and short of familiarity there is no advantage from going one way or another. However, Canon bayonet mounts follow normal screw convention, whichever way you hold them or the camera, Nikon lenses do not.</p>

<p>Trying to reason that one is better than the other is farcical, failing to acknowledge that one follows convention and the other not reminds me of a startled ostrich.</p>

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A thousand pardons, but my keyboard seems to be defective. The I key Is right beside the O.

 

What, a guy doesn't get credit for spelling it correctly four times out of five? Where's the love, man?

 

Wrong way lenses. Check. Depth of field preview button on the wrong side. Check.

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