What are they? Are any of them any good? I have come by a couple wide angles from them (a 24mm f2.8 in Nikon mount and a 28mm f2.8 in Canon FD) and they both seem to be... pretty average at best. So I did some searching on the web and came up with nothing. The closest clue I found was on a cameraquest.com page of manufacturers who made lenses for Vivitar over the years, and one of them (serial number s starting with 33 I believe) is Makinon! Therefore, unlike many of the Hanimexes and Spiratones and Soligors, they are not a distribution name but an actual manufacturer. Can anyone point me in the right direction in my search for this obscure (and probably completely useless ) knowledge? Are there any Makinon "experts" out there???