joe_weiler Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 What are peoples preferences between these two tabular films? I just shot each in 35mm format to compare, but have not developed & printed yet. The darkroom Cookbook (pg 14) suggests that Delta is slightly grainer. Also that Delta holds highlight detail better. Has anyone found this to be true? (I have read the old photo.net postings about Delta & T-Max films) Would appreciate hearing about anyones experiences . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_purdy Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Ilford films have the reputation of better highlight detail and except for HP5 it seems true to me. I like TMax 100 better than Delta for the grain reason. I process in a high accutance grainy developer and the TMax 100 is a lot less grainy for that. In general usage though with regular developer I don't think it would be an issue worth worrying about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen sullivan Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 IMO, strange as it sounds, after shooting many rolls of film... T-MAX 100 looks better in D-76 @ 1:1 than Xtol Stock Delta 100 looks better in Xtol Stock, than does T-MAX 100 Again IMO, TMX in D76 @ 1:1 has fine grain and is very sharp. TMX in Xtol Stock has fine grain, but not as fine in D-76 1:1 and is not sharp (in Xtol Stock.) Delta 100 in Xtol Stock has very fine grain and is very sharp. I have yet to try Delta in D-76 1:1, but would love to see how Delta 100 performs in Xtol @ 1:1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew_julian Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Add Fuji Acros to your list. I like it more than both TMX and Delta 100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_waller Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 I've used both, rated at 50 ASA and devved in Rodinal 1:50. Delta is slightly grainer but sharper, and I like its rendering of highlights. I use more Delta 100 than any other film. Like Matt, I prefer Fuji Acros to TMX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rothelle Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Hello Joe, I did the same test with a model last year for a portrait project and I saw no gains at all in a print from my Tmax. I ended up voting Delta 100 and Plus-X to be my main 100 film for portraits for outdoors now. I love the rich tone that I been getting with the Delta films. I process them both in TMax developer and WOW! It's hard to say which one is better. I just pick the one I like for that type of look. I love Tmax in the studio and I shoot them both at box speed. I have also used them with other developers and the results has been always great. TMax is a tricky film but like all things you'll learn how to ride a bike.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob F. Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 "Delta is slightly grainer but sharper" Yes, I think so. It also has better local contrast, in comparison to the fairly flat look I have gotten with T-Max 100. I'm sure it is the increased contrast that allows Delta to look sharper than T-Max. It may well be that T-Max has higher resolving power, and that might make it preferable for scientific measurements and the like. But Delta LOOKS sharper, and the print looks snappier; and that's what I want. My efforts to increase the contrast of T-Max by developing it longer resulted in blocked highlights. By the time I got some contrast, the negative was fairly cooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ_butner___portland__or Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Long ago, I did a side by side test of the T-Max and Delta 100. Same scene, lens, etc. I then had them both souped in X-Tol. The Delta version looked much nicer. Considerably better tonality and contrast. The grain was about the same for both. The T-Max negs were flat and lifeless. Since then, Fuji has introduced their ACROS film, which is very good. For 100 speed film, I always go with Delta 100. Russ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_weiler Posted November 7, 2006 Author Share Posted November 7, 2006 Thanks for sharing your experiences! I developed the Delta for the time given by Ilford which I now presume is for a difussion enlarger. Next time I will decrease my development time to fit my Condensor enlarger's needs. Made 8x10" prints. Delta certainly looks sharp. Will make bigger prints to compare when I work out my development times. I guess what drove me to this small experiment after 50 years of using of Kodak films was an article in the Business section of the newspaper. Kodak claims they will be all digital by 2008! So what will happen to Kodak film? Will another company pick it up or will it be gone in two years? Any one with a crystal ball out there? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaius1 Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Well, Kodak is just in the process of launching new films (the Portra II range) and will be mass distributing them next year, i.e. 2007. I wouldn't worry about them getting out of the market just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay_de_fehr Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 Joe, I'm not going to be any help, I love them both, and Acros too. The differences between these three films are very difficult to see, and one must have their process well under control to be able to pick one out of the lineup. Acros has the best reciprocity characteristics of the three, but the others aren't bad either. It's kind of a Pepsi-or-Coke thing; a matter of taste, or availability. You can't really go far wrong with any of these films. Enjoy. Jay P.S. that's a really nice shot, Rothelle.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helinophoto Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 I am by no means an old timer conserning film and developers. However, I did try out a few films, among them, TMax100 professional and Delta 100, both developed in T-Max developer at times found at the mighty development chart online. I found that the Delta was much more grainier and "harder" (more contrasty I suppose) than the Tmax film, my taste is more for the Tmax type of look, so I ditched Delta in favour of TMax. I XTol, I've found that TMax yields beautiful and smooth results at 1:1; Less grain, good sharpness and good contrast (imo). I scan the negatives though, so I have the option to tweak the curve to increase contrast, should I have to. Try them both in the same developer and go with what you favour is my advice, but Delta is clearly more grainiy and contrasty. Regards K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_weiler Posted November 21, 2006 Author Share Posted November 21, 2006 Update: worked out a good developing time, and made 10X enlargements. For my purposes as an artist either film will work, they are so close in quality. It is nice to have a back up film. (Rothelle, great shot! it livens up our subject!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rothelle Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Joe, Thank you for the comments. Like I said they are both great films to use. I use them both but just love the look of my portraits with Delta and also Plus-X, Tri-X is still my #1 film no matter what they say:-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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