shahdad_samimi Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 Ernst Leitz GMBH Wetzlar Summicron 5cm 50mm 1:2 I am trying to figure out which exact type this lens is. It is off a m3 camera and the lens itself has a screw mount. the screw end goes into a bayonet mount adaptor, the adaptor fits into the m3. The problem I have is that I do know how to distinguish between a rigid/collapsible screw mount and rigid/normal bayonet mount In McKeown 2006 edition there 8 summicron lenses. I would like to match it to the book. Pics of lens to help out http://teamlunchbox.nuclearfallout.net/shahdad/cameras/20%20leica%20m3/m3%20(6).jpg http://teamlunchbox.nuclearfallout.net/shahdad/cameras/20%20leica%20m3/m3%20(7).jpg http://teamlunchbox.nuclearfallout.net/shahdad/cameras/20%20leica%20m3/m3%20(8).jpg http://teamlunchbox.nuclearfallout.net/shahdad/cameras/20%20leica%20m3/m3%20(9).jpg any help would be greatly appriciated thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_scheitrowsky1 Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 That's not an adaptor you've got there, it's part of the lens! (the focussing part.) Looks to me like the second Summicron type called the rigid. It came after the first summicron which was a collapsible. Contemporary with the rigid was the dual range. Then in 1969 Leica came out with their first black Summicron that was made until 1979. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob F. Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 What Frank said, and I will add that it looks like a bayonet rigid model, rather than a screw mount. I don't think there's an adapter on the lens either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_newell2 Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 Concur and wish to point out that the lens mount is (as it should be) serially numbered to match the lens head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg choong Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 They call it the 'rigid', it's produced in 1956-1968 and it has 2 variants. The first can focuss up to 1 meter and the second, up to 48cm or 51cm (later units). The short focussing models require a special viewfinder called "glasses" or "eyes" that is placed over on the camera, these models sometimes are also known as Dual Range. I don't find the catch in your pix that holds these glasses so I guess your's is not a DR lens. I used to own one of these DR lenses. http://www.gregchoongphotography.com/dr.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_shriver Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 The removable head was to increase it's usability as a macro (close-up) lens on the Visoflex reflex housing. There was also a mount to allow using the lens head as an enlarger lens. Not that it really is optimized as a macro lens at all, it's not corrected for close-up work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan flanders Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 The removable lens cell also was usable via the UOORF with the SOMKY or SOOKY-M for close-up work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronald_moravec1 Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 It is an early version of the Rigid. Formula had a slight change and the focus mount changed to wider more fine ribbing/scallops later. They also changed to a more matt finish chrome. A friend did thousands of weddings with a black finish one and he loved it. Other lenses were tried, but he always went back to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shahdad_samimi Posted November 11, 2006 Author Share Posted November 11, 2006 thanks a lot everyone, greatly appriciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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