billballardphotography Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 Ok - I've searched the forums and found nothing on this...I've also read through several PS books with no resolution. I'm certain it will become very clear that I am quite new to PS image processing, so please be paitient. Here goes: At just about any time in the past 30 years, I could go into a darkroom, (either mine or otherwise), pick up an easel, set the blades to, say 11X14, and place a 16X20 sheet of paper in the easel. I could then print an 11X14 image on a 16x20 sheet of paper. Not a difficult thing to do, even in the dark. ;) I'm beginning to wonder - is it even possible to print a standard size image from PS? My most recent attempt and an 8X10 image sized out at 6.891X10 at a resolution of 360dpi. I'm really getting irritaed by having to work with image sizes like this when all I want is a simple 8X10 on an 11X14 canvas - or an 11X14 on 16X20, a 16X20 on 20X24, etc. This issue is making image presentation very difficult as I use standard sized mat boards with standard sized windows for fine-art gallery framed and bin-art sales. FWIW, I'm working Canon 20D RAW files (8.2mp) and scans of postives and negatives. The prints are made at a local pro-lab. Thanks in advance - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helenbach Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 Bill, the Crop Tool will do what you want. If you look under Cropping Methods in the Help file you will see what it looks like - a pair of opposed set-squares. You can fix the height and width in inches, and the required ppi for the print. Then you draw the crop area over the image and hit Enter. There is a lot more that you can do with it, of course. Best, Helen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_dunn2 Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 <p>When you resize the image, either using the crop tool or through the menus, you can specify exactly what dimensions and resolution you want. So if you want an 8x10 at 360 ppi, you can get that. To print it on a larger canvas, you can increase the size of the canvas to whatever size you want, and again, you get to specify exactly what the size should be, as well as how the original image should be placed in it.</p> <p>So yes, it's entirely possible. I'm not certain what you're doing wrong. If you want an 8x10 at 360 ppi, you're going to have to crop to get the 4:5 aspect ratio (the 20D's is 3:4, like most other DSLRs), and also resize, since at 360 ppi, the 20D's native resolution works out to only 6.49x9.73". You can do this in one step using the crop tool (specify both dimensions and the resolution and it will automatically do the right thing), or if you prefer to choose your own resampling method rather than letting the crop tool do it for you, then give the crop tool the dimensions but leave the resolution blank, and follow that up by resizing the image. To print an 8x10 on an 11x14 canvas, you need to add 1.5" to each side and 2" top and bottom; expand the canvas by those amounts.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Ingold Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 The "Canvas Size" describes the size of the outer borders, not the image size. Set the Canvas size if you want to make a composite larger than the original image, but use the Crop tool to set an exact size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshall Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 Yep. Crop tool. One small correction: the 20D is actually 3:2, like other dSLRs, insted of 4:3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric friedemann Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 Primer on Crop Tool: http://www.arraich.com/ref/aatool_crop6.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helenbach Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 "To print an 8x10 on an 11x14 canvas, you need to add 1.5" to each side and 2" top and bottom; expand the canvas by those amounts." That's OK if you are sending files to a lab (which is relevant to this question), but is it worth mentioning that if you are doing the printing yourself you would do that in the printer driver rather than by expanding the canvas? Best, Helen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billballardphotography Posted October 28, 2006 Author Share Posted October 28, 2006 Thanks everyone - will give it a shot.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_dunn2 Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 <cite>One small correction: the 20D is actually 3:2, like other dSLRs, insted of 4:3</cite> <p>Duh. That's what I get for posting before my first coffee of the day. Sorry if I confused anyone!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshall Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 Steve - You oughtta see some of the stuff I've posted. On second thought, maybe best you don't... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Ingold Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 Helen, In general, you cannot set an exact print size in a printer, just margins. If you want to print with a border, it's simpler to crop the image, then set the canvas size to whatever the final size will be, and print to an exact size (rather than "print to fit") in the print dialogue. I have to question the fiscal sense in paying for such a large print (commercially, about $10 ft^2), mostly borders, when it's much cheaper and just as effective to mount the print and matte it for framing. If you want a borderless, matted print, you would use only the crop tool, not the canvas size. (Photoshop 101). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helenbach Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 Edward, "In general, you cannot set an exact print size in a printer, just margins. If you want to print with a border, it's simpler to crop the image, then set the canvas size to whatever the final size will be, and print to an exact size (rather than "print to fit") in the print dialogue." I was only referring to setting the borders using the printer, not the image size. Many print systems do allow you to set the exact print size as well, however. It's not a big issue though. Two very similar, easy ways of doing the same thing. Best, Helen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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