thanz Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 WARNING: Due to the increase in "Drive-By Whining" in this forum, I must warn you that the images ahead are "snap-shot" in nature, photo's of family, friends, and a dog are posted below. The camera used was not of a digital type and some images may be blurry, fuzzy, and generally not sharp. If this type of photography offends you please do not proceed. * I am 18 and a mature adult, I don't mind snapshot's: WELCOME, PLEASE SCROLL DOWN. I was searching the site for info on an old Spartus Full-Vue TLRish camera I have when I stumbled upon Gene M's site with some samples taken with the same camera, really nice job considering the camera. Searching the web I found an old ad posted for this camera, it stated that "It's the family favorite for brilliant snapshots". It made me wonder, when did the snapshot die? I like to look through old family albums, seeing snaps of people that for some reason the person behind the camera found worthy of photographing. Blurry or a little out of focus didn't matter, the pic made the album. Nowdays I often see mom's with digi-point and shoots, take a pic- review it on the screen- re-group because someone wasn't smiling- shoot it again and again till it's perfect. I guess technology has perfected the snapshot. Here are a few not so perfect snaps' taken with the "family favorite" Spartus Full- Vue...<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mdcarma Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 Does Sid Barq? Nice feel to those shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thanz Posted July 30, 2005 Author Share Posted July 30, 2005 " does sid Barq?" that's funny! ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny_zahner Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 Hey, thanks for posting these!!! I have one of these, and was thinking about putting it into use. I think I will!!! I'm guessing that the young guy in the first pic has seen "Napoleon Dynamite." Never really understood that movie... Anyway, thanks for the pictures, they all look fantastic and show what this camera is capable of as well. The pictures actually seem very sharp in the middle, with bluriness around the outside. A few questions, did you use the "instant" shutter setting, or were some of these taken on "time." Just wondering, since they are all exposed very well. What film did you use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan flanders Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 Few snapshots will ever qualify as fine art but in time most will become valid historical evidence. I am indifferent to just whose snaps they might be but I am more impressed by them than of the many attempts to outdo Weston, or Karsch, Cappa, HCB, or whoever it might be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thanz Posted July 30, 2005 Author Share Posted July 30, 2005 Danny, the film was Tri-X 320, souped in Xtol 1:1 for 10 1/2 min. Gene M told me once the shutter speed was around 1/50 sec. I think, I have heard 1/100th but mine seems slower, all my shots were taken on "instant". The center is sharper on my lens, maybe that's why so many old pics have the subject centered in the frame, hhmmmmmhh? It's a thought. thanks, Todd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill_winters Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 Great work Todd! I'm certain you could make exceptional photographs with any camera. You have a great eye for making an interesting composition. I have found the borders between a 'snapshot' and a 'serious photograph' to be almost non-existant. A photograph's importance will vary between viewers. (But I guess that's just me... hehe) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandeha Lynch Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 "YOU SEE THE PICTURE before YOU TAKE IT!" as it says in the ad. Can this help us to understand how the snapshot has evolved? Perhaps film cameras today might be marketed as "NO chimping required." <p> I guess the snapshot was, in one sense, an immediate consequence of the invention of roll film, with the meaning of the content prioritised above almost every aspect of photographic technique. No problem with that. <p> None of which explains why the lady has a cabbage leaf on her shoulder, but perhaps some of the less youth-challenged forum members will recall the fashion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacsa Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 Hey, nice results for such a low-end camera (sorry no offense intended!). I wonder why does it have such a big glass as "taking lens" if the aperture is so much smaller - if i am not mistaken, that's the "aperture" that round hole that can be seen on the first photo, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_tourtellott Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 No whining here. These snaps are great in my opinion. Of course I love old cameras and the look they provide to a snapshot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bliorg Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 Great pics. Agree with your assessments, too. And who's Pedro? Scott, who used to live in Beaumont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenotar28 Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 Great stuff. More proof that the photographer is the most important part of the camera. A good guitarrist can play decently on a cheap guitar, and a bad one will still make bad sounds on a good guitar. Same principle applies here. You have the eye, the timing, and good lab habits, and it pays off. Congratulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mskovacs Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 What other kind of shots should you be expected to make with a $9.98 TLR?! Nice snap shots there from such a basic camera. Probably would have looked just as good back in the 50's as a set of contact printed proofs. I'm sure the taking lens is big to match the viewing lens in size and to give it that "pro" appearance. Remember, people saw pros at the time working with things like a Rolleiflex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapegeek Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 Great shots! I have several Spartus-Full vues. I just took the lens out of one and made a pinhole cameras. The earlier models, like yours, are much more rugged, while the later ones get pretty bad. I think the shutter speeds on these cameras vary from about 1/50-1/100 and the lens is all plastic. In the upcoming Toycamera Handbook, I wrote the section on the Spartus. Look for it at Toycamera.com soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gene m Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 Some photos make me laugh. "Sid The Dog" is a very funny photo to me. I don't know why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_elek Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 Hey Todd, I really like these. The sepia tones work perfectly, because it gives a suitable mood to them -- sort of a reminder of simpler times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny_zahner Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 Here is a Spartus Full Vue in the original box, witht the original instructions...<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny_zahner Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 Here are the instructions...<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny_zahner Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 Inside<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny_zahner Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 Inside again<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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