jay_chadney Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 There is no proper place to post this, and since I the nylon webbing is attached to a Leica camera, here it goes: I have 2 Domke neck straps (one brown/one black). I am using them both on 2 different cameras. One has very slick, supple strap webbing on the thin length that is closest to the camera. The other has stiffer webbing. The stiffer one doesn't drape, and sometimes it will poke me in the eye when I raise the camera up. Is there any way to make the stiffer webbing softer/more flexible? I soaked it in 190 degree water for 20 minutes or so - no change. I wonder if anyone in here has a solution, or is bothered by the same problem. Don't get all mad at me for such a trivial question, but if I poke my eye out, it may have far reaching ramifications. Thanks,Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_kaplan1 Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 I have an assortment of fabric straps. The softest ones seem to be Nikon, but they've been in use probably 25 years (on Leicas). The CL strap by Leica is the stiffest. The Bessa straps and a couple of no-name straps are in between. It'll probably get softer with age and use. Did you try using a fabric softener? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan flanders Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 After many years of wrestling with straps of leather, webbing, metal, and various other materials and combinations therof I have settled on 1" wide grosgrain ribbon as the most practical material for my needs. It is adequate in strength, pliable, and doesn't bulk-up or chafe. Neither is it clumsy when stuffed into a gadget bag along with its camera or accessory. If anyone is interested I can provide a sketch showing how to rig the strap to make its length adjustable for comfort and utility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry h-l Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 The accessory Voigtlander straps that Stephen Gandy at Cameraquest sells are quite nice, softer than a Domke strap, but not length adjustable. It almost feels like soft cotton and has a suede-like non-slip pad at the shoulder. I imagine that Rick Pinto at Photo Village would have them also. BTW, I think this is a different strap than the standard Bessa strap that comes with the cameras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay_chadney Posted October 13, 2006 Author Share Posted October 13, 2006 Dan, a sketch of what you did would be neat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinay_patel Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 "Is there any way to make the stiffer webbing softer/more flexible? I soaked it in 190 degree water for 20 minutes or so - no change." Try soaking it in chicken stock and give it to the dog. Oh yea, if he's given to burying bones in the backyard, you might want to take the strap off the camera first :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronald_moravec1 Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 Old Nikon ones like Al said. They are almost floppy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay_chadney Posted October 16, 2006 Author Share Posted October 16, 2006 Fabric softener, followed by a cycle in the washer did nothing. I realize part of the problem is the leather piece I have there to "protect" the camera body from rubs. It doesn't allow the o-ring to fall freely to the side of the camera. When the o-ring stops at horizontal, then so does the first few inches of strap. I took the leather piece off, and the only place the metal ring could contact the body is when the strap is at a right angle to the body, and the tinist bit of ring can touch. Other than that, the strap itself acts as a bumper for the o-ring. Is it really necessary to bumper the o-ring? I mean, when being carriend around, the ring can't touch the body. Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_kaplan1 Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 The strap itself, any strap, will eventually make rub marks in the chrome, which is why some people want a piece of protective leather there between the strap and the body. The rings will also cause wear in the camera's attachment lugs. I've seen people using a length of leather shoe lace to attach the camera to the strap to avoid that from happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan flanders Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Here are the scans and sketches for the Grosgrain camera strap. I think the diagram is self explanatory. The ends are tapered by folding over and sewing. Dan<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan flanders Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Here is the tip of the Grosgrain strap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan flanders Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Here is the rigging diagram for the Grosgrain Camera Strap.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan flanders Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 The Grosgrain ribbon I used is approximately 48" long before folding at the tips. My M is black so I don't need any guards to keep the rings from rubbing. If your camera is silver it would be prudent to attach some suede guards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan flanders Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Actually there are several ways the ribbon can be woven through the buckles, but I have found that the one above affords the greater adjusability with enough friction to hold at the chosen length. Obviously the method of attachment to the camera lugs is optional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan flanders Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 For some unknown reason the scan has disappeared. Here is a new scan of the completed strap. Realize that by sliding the buckles together or apart the length of the strap can be adjusted without anything but friction to hold it in place.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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