Slide film vs digital projection

Discussion in 'Beginner Questions' started by henrymudd, Nov 2, 2021.

  1. I’m a long time slide shooter. I just love the way they look when projected onto a nice screen. Having said that, it’s getting harder and harder, not to mention MUCH more expensive to continue shooting slide film. I was wondering if there are any digital projectors that can compete with a slide film projector?

    Specifically is there a digital projector that can take a photo shot on a Nikon D850, or Olympus OM-D E-M1 that is as good as a 35mm Fuji Velvia Slide projected by my 30 year old Kodak projector?
     
  2. You could find a film recording service to make slides from your digital files. In the movie business you would call this a film-out. The concept is not new, for either movies or photos. This is a recently launched turn-key service that does film intermediates for movie productions, in case you are not familiar with this kind of thing:

    SHIFTai

    Edit: FWIW I used to love shooting slide film. I loved the feeling every time I opened a new roll of Ektachrome. I kind of want to get back into it. Kind of! I'm more than happy to admit that I'm delusional, if I actually am. ;-)
     
  3. I think a 4K projector should be good as compared to 35mm slides. Otherwise I don't know if you can get an 8K projector yet.
    Making slide from digital files doesn't save you any money as compared to just shoot slides.
     
  4. 8K projectors seem to exist; 10K+x€. Do you really need one? I 'd rather have a giant flat screen monitor or TV. But yes, 4K might be sufficiently 35 mm film equivalent.
    I 'll never understand why projectos came without movements, to get the entire screen into focus.
     
  5. I agree something like a 60" 4K TV should be good enough. It's brighter than a projector and the entire screen is in focus. The only thing I would miss on a slide projector is the ability to switch from horizontal to vertical from slide to slide.
     
  6. Slides were my belovéd medium, but even without the click-click and Uncle Gust's snore in a warm dark room, I now generally prefer a digital or digitized image on a honkin' big hi-res monitor.

    Those were the days my friend......
    sneaking-out.jpg
     
  7. When my dad first bought us a color TV in 1969, he told me about flying spot scanners that would display slides on TV.
    It seems, though, that they were not affordably priced for home users. As far as I know, they still aren't.

    But we can scan them, store the digital image, and display it on our LCD (or other) TV,
    or computer screen. Or with a video projector.

    I am not so sure what to do to make the image look more slide-like. Add rounded corners?
    Dust particles? Dye clouds?
     
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  8. dust particles, definitely dust particles :D
     
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  9. You need the occasional upside down/sideways/reversed image..
     
  10. Here are samples of what you can do by showing slide shows with digital pictures on your smart TV. Music, narration, titles, credits, etc can be added. I use Adobe Premiere Elements video program to create these. The scuba show is from scanned film. The rest are digitally captured. Most are 2K which show great on my 75" 4K TV that will uprez it. You can now download 4K to Youtube. The thing is you can add short video clips to the stills as Fire Academy show contains. That was actually shot with my Samsung cellphone. It's in 2K
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDzogShfhgCHh2rVvEsFOJQ

    If you go to this one, and select the Regency Car show is in 4K and the Fire Brigade is 35mm BW film scanned, also in 4K. Don't forget to set the shows to the highest resolution if your bandwidth can handle it, otherwise select auto. All of these show on your monitor as well. But you really should look at them on your TV if you want to see if you will be pleased. Let me know what you think.
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGsByP1B3q1EG68f4Yr2AhQ
     
  11. The sound of the whirring of a fan, and the occasional expletive 'SH*T, that's HOT' when you touch the projector above the bulb! (at least on mine!)
     
  12. A decent 4K monitor or TV screen is about 10 times brighter than a projected image. So it needs no fully darkened room, nor any faffing about with beaded screens or the like.

    So why would anyone mess about with a video/digital projector these days? Just plug a USB stick containing the scanned images into your smart TV and sit back with the remote-controller.

    A 55" 4K TV also costs a lot less than a 4K capable digital projector these days.

    And IME it takes uncomfortably close scrutiny to see more detail in the average 35mm slide than you can perceive in a half-decent scan shown on a 4K screen.
     
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  13. Several things are obvious. You need to accept that your capture/display flow will likely be 100% digital. E-6 processing is vanishing as we text. Transparency film is obscenely pricey most places in 2021. If you can't let go, then know that scanning transparency material(and often-necessary processing)still leave you with digital files.
    Projection is arguably out; display on a monitor is 2021 reality.

    Friends and I finally ended early last year a long-running "Jurassic Slide Night" where we met up quarterly to futz with Ektagraphs, Cabin 120 projectors, saggy screens and enjoyed a few hours of beers and 35mm and 120 slides. We're plotting a digital version if/when we can safely hang out again. Move with the times? Necessary.
     
  14. I have learned not to bore others with my slides, but I love to sit in the living room and look at my slides while my wife watches TV in the den. Last night I enjoyed images from 50 years ago. I won't argue about which is better. I do post scanned E100 on classic manual cameras' film camera week.
     
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  15. Someone must surely have done a digital simulation of the heat of the lamp "popping" the slide in its mount.
     
  16. Better than popping is when the slide melts.
     
  17. Here's what melting looks like in a film projector. ALways fun.
     
  18. There are 8 different ways to put a slide into the projector, only 1 of which is correct.

    The big advantage of digitizing your slides is that you edit them to make corrections for cropping, exposure, white balance, and even dodging and burning. Of course that assumes that your initial exposure was not perfect.
     
  19. I used to know stories about professors would would find slides added to their presentations as a joke.

    Usually completely unrelated to the subject at hand, such as the presenter in a compromising position.
     
  20. For myself, who shot mainly slides during the film era, my way of coping with slides that would require "corrections for cropping, exposure, white balance, and even dodging and burning", was to send them to the "circular file". We called it editing then, but now it would probably be called "curating". It worked.
     
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