sinaron?

can someone please clue me in on the designations of the sinaron

lenses. i heard that sinaron-s's are actually apo sironar n's &

sinaron-se's are actually apo sironar s's, so what is the apo sinaron

for? anyone know for sure?

It is said that the Sinaron Lenses are the pick of the Rodenstock offerings. Reckoned to be tested by Sinar for their lable. Check their site. Sironar-n = S and Sironar-s = SE

I believe that Sinar haven't offered any new *film* lenses for some time so the latest Rodenstock offering may well fit the bill. As there are always some lemons the Sinar relabeling is one way of ensuring a good one.

 

Apo is reconed to focus the R G B more precisely than non Apo but I wonder if you would need a pretty good chain of process to percieve any difference and that, in colour.

<p>

It isn't a secret that Sinar-branded lenses are made by Rodenstock.

I have one and the fine print on the lens says "Made by Rodenstock". Looking at

<a href="http://www.sinarbron.com/lenses.htm">Sinar's descriptions</a>,

and especially

<a href="http://www.sinarbron.com/lensspec.htm">Sinar's specifications, </a>

the following identifications can be made:

</p>

 

<table>

<tr> <th>Sinar name</th> <th>Rodenstock name</th></tr>

<tr> <td>Sinaron WE</td> <td>Apo-Grandagon</td></tr>

<tr> <td>Sinaron W</td> <td>Grandagon-N</td></tr>

<tr> <td>Sinaron S</td> <td>Apo-Sironar-N</td></tr>

<tr> <td>Sinaron SE</td> <td>Apo-Sironar-S</td></tr>

<tr> <td>Sinaron WS</td> <td>Apo-Sironar-W</td></tr>

<tr> <td>Macro Sinaron</td> <td>Apo-Macro-Sironar</td></tr>

<tr> <td>Apo Sinaron</td> <td>Apo-Ronar</td></tr>

</table>

very awesome thank you for confirming

 

which are your favorite lenses of the bunch

I believe the Calumet Caltar series are also Rodenstocks. Love my Rodenstocks, all 6 of 'em! Thanks Bob Soloman! (Although I do own 2 Schneiders, sorry)

I seem to have Sinaron-G 150/6.3 MC (at least I hope) on my 4x5.<br>

It may be a bit elderly piece of glass - I don't know anything about it but that it works. <br>

Michael

Guessing from the focal length and aperture, the Sinaron-G is probably the Rodenstock Geronar.

ok backtrack to stupid question

 

can these normally not be used on cameras other than sinar because of db mounts? what exactly is the db mount, do i have to make sure it has a copal shutter on it

Joshua,

 

Lenses in DB mount don't have a shutter of their own and must be used with a separate behind-the-lens shutter system.

Why does a 210mm f/5.6 Sinaron S have a 310mm image circle and a 210mm f/5.6 Sironar N have a 301mm image circle? Everywhere I look it seems as though these are thought to be the same lens. It doesn't really matter because 300mm is enough image circle for what I do, but it has peaked my curiosity.

<p>As to that last question:</p>

<p>The 210mm lenses:<br />-------------------------</p>

<p>Sinar Sinaron-S 210mm 5.6 -- has a 301mm image circle<br />Rodenstock Apo-Sironar-N 210mm 5.6 -- has a 301mm image circle</p>

<p>So, they are the same actually. They are both 72 degrees angle of view.</p>

<p>The Sinar Sinaron-SE is the ambitious version:</p>

<p>Sinar Sinaron-SE 210mm 5.6 -- 316mm (f22) 75 degrees<br />Rodenstock APO-Sironar-S 210mm 5.6 -- 316mm (f22) 75 degrees<br />>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<</p>

<p>The 150mm lenses:<br />--------------------------<br />Sinar Sinaron-S 150mm 5.6 -- 214mm (f22) image circle at 72 degrees<br />Rodenstock APO Sironar-N 150mm 5.6 -- 214mm image circle at 72 degrees</p>

<p>Sinar Sinaron-SE 150mm 5.6 -- 231mm (f22) image circle at 75 degrees<br />Rodenstock APO-Sironar-S 150mm 5.6 -- 231mm (f22) image circle at 75 degrees</p>

<p>As to the plain Rodenstock Sironar-N and Sironar-S without the APO designation. . . I believe that they are the older versions with same dimensions as the APO-Sironar-N and APO-Sironar-S with the Sironar-S being the wider image circles. But, I have to check this.</p>

<p>There was never a Sironar S.</p>

<p>I have a Macro Sinaron SE 5,6/180.<br>

Would this then be an Apo Macro Sironar S?<br>

Can't find either in any of my lists...</p>

<p>No, It would be an Apo Macro Sironar.<br>

The modern Rodensock macros were/are:<br>

210 and 300mm Makro Sironar - both discontinued for several years<br>

120 and 180mm Apo Macro Sironar - both current<br>

120mm Apo Macro Sironar Digital - current<br>

There are also 3 duplicating lenses that are used that are current - 75mm 4.0 and the 75mm 4.5 and the 120mm 5.6 Apo Rodagon-D lenses. These look like enlarging lenses, but are not.</p>