Shutter Actuation Count (How Many Shots?)

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by adam zyto, Jan 5, 2008.

  1. How can I tell how many shots a D200 has taken? I have an opportunity to purchase a used one and want
    to make sure it's been lightly used. Thanks.
     
  2. mjt

    mjt

    this question has been asked, oddly enough, probably 3-4 times in the last month ... why not try a search?
     
  3. ShunCheung

    ShunCheung Moderator

    http://opanda.com
     
  4. Download this free utility: http://drchung.new21.net/previewextractor/
    Open the last shot taken with the camera and you will have what you want.
     
  5. Jack,thank you for that link. I tried a couple of times using Opanda for my D70 and couldn't figure it out.

    Previewextractor told me all I wanted to know and in an instant!
     
  6. Anything that would work on a Mac...?!
    Thanks

    Max
     
  7. ShunCheung

    ShunCheung Moderator

    You can get that from PhotoShop also. Click on File on the top left corner. From that drop-down menu, click on File Info (not shown here) and you'll get a pop-up window with information for that image file. Click on Advanced (last item) and then expand the 4th item from the "tree." Aux Image Number is the shutter actuation count for that particular image. The attached image is from CS3.
    00NuLR-40793584.jpg
     
  8. ShunCheung

    ShunCheung Moderator

    From opanda:
    00NuLn-40793684.jpg
     
  9. Thanks Shun, I found it in CS as well.
     
  10. CS found shutter actuations for D80 but not D70, BTW
     
  11. Thank you Shun, never realized that before...!!!
    Max
     
  12. Happy New Year to all.
    I am trying to have the shutter actuations shown for my D200 firmware #2. I have ALL the programs listed in this thread and read all the posts carefully. I have CS only not CS2. None of the programs show the shutter actuations. I did exactly as Shun outlined but no go. Does anyone have an idea. My Hard drives are fat 32 operating system is XP SP2. Regards Peter
     
  13. ShunCheung

    ShunCheung Moderator

    Opanda only works with JPEG files, not NEF.

    I just shot one image on my D200 using RAW + JPEG basic. Opanda reads the EXIF data from the JPEG without any problems. I also opened both NEF and JPEG files with Adobe Bridge. From Bridge, you can click on "File" also and display the "Advanced" data as I showed above. I got the actuation count from both the NEF file and JPEG file.
     
  14. Thanks for that tip! Works with CS2 for mac I can confirm. I now know my D200 has only
    7500+, I need to shoot more!
     
  15. You learn something new everyday, Thanks Shun
     
  16. Thank you Shun for the reply, but the answer is no go. The Opanda does not show the shutter actuations as it does with your example.Here is what it shows:
    [Image]
    Make = NIKON CORPORATION
    Model = NIKON D200
    Orientation = top/left
    X Resolution = 90
    Y Resolution = 90
    Resolution Unit = inch
    Software = Adobe Photoshop CS Windows
    Date Time = 2007-12-16 19:33:33
    Exif IFD Pointer = Offset: 216

    [Camera]
    Exposure Time = 1/500"
    F Number = F4
    Exposure Program = Aperture priority
    ISO Speed Ratings = 400
    Exif Version = Version 2.21
    Date Time Original = 2007-12-10 15:08:24
    Date Time Digitized = 2007-12-10 15:08:24
    Shutter Speed Value = 8.97 TV
    Aperture Value = 4 AV
    Exposure Bias Value = ?0EV
    Max Aperture Value = F4
    Metering Mode = Pattern
    Light Source = unknown
    Flash = Off
    Focal Length = 300mm
    Subsec Time Original = 0.82"
    Subsec Time Digitized = 0.82"
    Color Space = sRGB
    Exif Image Width = 650
    Exif Image Height = 482
    Sensing Method = One-chip color area sensor
    File Source = DSC
    Scene Type = A directly photographed image
    CFA Pattern = [G,R],
    [B,G]
    Custom Rendered = Normal process
    Exposure Mode = Auto exposure
    White Balance = Auto white balance
    Digital Zoom Ratio = 1x
    Focal Length In 35mm Film = 450mm
    Scene Capture Type = Normal
    Gain Control = Low gain up
    Contrast = Normal
    Saturation = High saturation
    Sharpness = Hard
    Subject Distance Range = unknown

    [Thumbnail Info]
    Compression = JPEG Compressed (Thumbnail)
    X Resolution = 72
    Y Resolution = 72
    Resolution Unit = inch
    JPEG Interchange Format = Offset: 850
    JPEG Interchange Format Length = Length: 3222

    [Thumbnail]
    Thumbnail = 160 x 119
    Regards Peter
     
  17. ShunCheung

    ShunCheung Moderator

    Peter, could you send me a JPEG basic file via private e-mail?
     
  18. Also, Nikon has also stated that the odometer can always be reset to zero by any firmeware/software released by Nikon. So, counting on the validity of this number is somewhat futile to me.
     
  19. Thank you Shun will do. Regards Peter
     
  20. Exiftool is the king of exif info:
    http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/

    Here is an example of how the EXIF info can look inside the jpeg: (ExifTools can do much more than this and with more detail if needed)

    ExifTool Version Number : 6.66

    File Name : DSC_9962.JPG

    File Size : 637 kB

    File Modification Date/Time : 2007:01:01 02:54:16

    File Type : JPEG

    MIME Type : image/jpeg

    Make : NIKON CORPORATION

    Camera Model Name : NIKON D70s

    Orientation : Horizontal (normal)

    X Resolution : 300

    Y Resolution : 300

    Resolution Unit : inches

    Software : Ver.1.00

    Modify Date : 2007:01:01 02:54:16

    Y Cb Cr Positioning : Co-sited

    Exposure Time : 1/8

    F Number : 5.6

    Exposure Program : Manual

    Exif Version : 0221

    Date/Time Original : 2007:01:01 02:54:16

    Create Date : 2007:01:01 02:54:16

    Components Configuration : YCbCr

    Compressed Bits Per Pixel : 1

    Exposure Compensation : 0

    Max Aperture Value : 4.0

    Metering Mode : Multi-segment

    Flash : Auto, Fired, Return detected

    Focal Length : 12.0mm

    Firmware Version : 2.10

    ISO : 800

    Quality : Basic

    White Balance : Incandescent

    Focus Mode : AF-S

    Flash Setting : Normal

    Flash Type : Optional,Ttl

    White Balance Fine Tune : 3

    Program Shift : 0

    Exposure Difference : -3.1

    Compression : JPEG (old-style)

    Preview Image Start : 2400

    Preview Image Length : 24391

    Flash Exposure Compensation : 0

    ISO Setting : 800

    Image Boundary : 0 0 3008 2000

    Flash Exposure Bracket Value : 0.0

    Exposure Bracket Value : 0

    Tone Comp : Mid.L

    Lens Type : G

    Lens : 12-24mm f/4

    Flash Mode : Fired, External

    AF Area Mode : Single Area

    AF Point : Center

    AF Points Used : Center

    Shooting Mode : Single-Frame

    Auto Bracket Release : None

    Color Hue : Mode1a

    Light Source : Speedlight

    Hue Adjustment : 0

    Noise Reduction : Off

    WB RGBG Levels : 321 256 832 256

    Lens Data Version : 0101

    AF Aperture : 4.1

    Focus Position : 0x21

    Focus Distance : 0.45 m

    Lens ID Number : 122

    Lens F Stops : 5.00

    Min Focal Length : 12.2mm

    Max Focal Length : 24.5mm

    Max Aperture At Min Focal : 4.0

    Max Aperture At Max Focal : 4.0

    MCU Version : 126

    Effective Max Aperture : 4.0

    Sensor Pixel Size : 7.8 x 7.8 um

    Serial Number : No= 30050f00

    Image Data Size : 616439

    Shutter Count : 20135

    Image Optimization : Custom

    Vari Program :

    User Comment : Copyright 2006 Peter Steinhoff

    Sub Sec Time : 80

    Sub Sec Time Original : 80

    Sub Sec Time Digitized : 80

    Flashpix Version : 0100

    Color Space : sRGB

    Exif Image Width : 3008

    Exif Image Length : 2000

    Interoperability Index : R98 - DCF basic file (sRGB)

    Interoperability Version : 0100

    Sensing Method : One-chip color area

    File Source : Digital Camera

    Scene Type : Directly photographed

    CFA Pattern : [Blue,Green][Green,Red]

    Custom Rendered : Normal

    Exposure Mode : Manual

    Digital Zoom Ratio : 1

    Focal Length In 35mm Format : 18

    Scene Capture Type : Standard

    Gain Control : Low gain up

    Contrast : Low

    Saturation : Normal

    Sharpness : Soft

    Subject Distance Range : Unknown (0)

    Thumbnail Offset : 26932

    Thumbnail Length : 8656

    Image Width : 3008

    Image Height : 2000

    Aperture : 5.6

    Blue Balance : 3.25

    Image Size : 3008x2000

    Lens ID : AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 12-24mm f/4G IF-ED

    Lens : 12-24mm f/4 G

    Preview Image : (Binary data 24391 bytes, use -b option to extract)

    Red Balance : 1.253906

    Scale Factor To 35mm Equivalent : 1.5

    Shutter Speed : 1/8

    Thumbnail Image : (Binary data 8656 bytes, use -b option to extract)

    Circle Of Confusion : 0.020 mm

    Depth of Field : 0.34 m (0.33 - 0.68)

    Focal Length : 12.0mm (35mm equivalent: 18.0mm)

    Hyperfocal Distance : 1.28 m

    Light Value : 5.0

    Date/Time Original : 2007:01:01 02:54:16.80


    You can get the exif from NEFs as well (and bunch of other files like TIFFs etc).
    Cool huh?

    Peter S
     
  21. Shun,
    Good info on this thread.
    The JPEG image I shot on my D3 does not look like the paste from above on CS3. I checked each of the drop downs, but could not find any "aux" functions. See info below:
     
  22. ShunCheung

    ShunCheung Moderator

    Harry, could you try to initiate "File" from Adobe Bridge instead of PhotoShop? Somehow that seems to make a different to some JPEGs.
    This feature has been around for a number of years. I think I first used it in CS, but it may have been around way before even that.

    I received a JPEG file from Peter Schulze, but that doesn't seem to be a JPEG file straight from the camera. If it is a JPEG generated by an editor, some of the EXIF data may have been stripped off. Please make sure you use a JPEG file straight from the camera.

    As Arthur points out, the actuation count could be modified just like a car's odometer could be tempered with. However, if you are the original owner, it should be quite accurate. I am not aware of any better counter, anyway.
     
  23. Peter, make sure you are using the Opanda IExif v 2.26 application that installs rather than the Opanda PowerExif v 1.2 Professional Trial. Each installs when you download from their site. The former application provides more detail on the image - including the "Total Number of Shutter Releases for Camera" near the bottom.
     
  24. Shun,
    That was the trick. For what it is worth, the original image was right out of the camera. Launching file info from Bridge showed the extra "aux" options as seen below.
    BTW... Thanks for all that you contribute to this forum.
    Harry
     
  25. Hi all, thanks to suggestion from Shun I have taken another picture and straight from the Camera I do get the shutter count using Opanda. So, in my case, the data is there but must not have been edited using Photoshop CS. Thank you to all who have responded with suggestions. Regards Peter
     
  26. According to Nikon, there is no way to know for sure.

    The number can be reset, for example, by a firmware update, or by a knowledgable technician.
     
  27. OK, so it won't let me provide a link...here's the text from the support site:
    Question:How many times has my Nikon camera released the shutter?
    Answer: There is no way to accurately tell the total number of times your camera shutter has released. While there are third party software applications designed to read a cameras shutter count, this number is not always accurate because the shutter release times may be reset by firmware updates, or reset in the Service department if certain parts are replaced or other operations are performed.
     
  28. I just bought a D70 that had 265 shutter acuations, the original owner never updated the firmware. I updated it today and check shutter actuations and it did notb reset.
     
  29. pge

    pge

    This is probably too far down a thread to get an answer but here is my question anyways. All of the various methods mentioned above work on my d200 photos but none work on my d1 photos. I have read that you can not determine actuations of a d1 from a photo. Does anyone know if this is true or not? Also a friend of mine has shot more than 100,000 photos with a 2 megapixel canon a40. I have also read that you can not determine that cameras actuations with a photo. Again, can anyone confirm? Thanks.
     
  30. For Phil,

    none of the Canon non-pro DSLRs or digicams store the shutter actuation count in the EXIF.
     
  31. Phil, I have been looking on ebay for a D1, and everyone I've asked has said that the only way to get the actuation number is to send it to Nikon.
     
  32. The freeware irfanview from www.irfanview.com will also display EXIF files. Display the photo in irfanview, press "i" on the keyboard, and then clik on the "exif" button. Shutter activations will be second from last in the column. Works for jpg and nef. To set up for nef files select the "options" column, select "set file associations", and one has to add "NEF" to the set by checking the "other" box and typing in "NEF".

    In all the above, I use the " to highlight the entry; don't actually type ".

    irfanview will also transform "nef" files to other formats. Quite a nice piece of freeware.
     
  33. Here's a web page that uses ExifTool to give you lots of Exif and other metadata without installing anything:

    http://regex.info/exif.cgi

    For Nikons that support Shutter Count, it's in the MakerNotes section.
     
  34. ...and there are plenty of files to test these utilities here:

    http://www.rawsamples.ch/index_en.php
     
  35. pge

    pge

    Thanks Ron and Kin

    Ron, I just bought my D1 through ebay, I paid 315 plus 2 new batteries for 35 from hong kong. It is hard to tell that my d1 has ever been used. There are definately a few strange things about the d1 like the antique menu system, but basically it is a great camera. I have a d200 which is a fairly big camera but I was surprised at how much bigger the d1 is.
     
  36. The 'ImageNumber' via Bridge and 'Total Number of Shutter Releases for Camera' via Opanda should more accurately be called 'Mirror Actuations' Why? Take a photo using Live View and the counter goes up by two.

    dave
     
  37. Well, but when you use Live View, the shutter also actuates twice, doesn't it? I mean, it opens the shutter to expose the sensor and then, when you press the shutter, it closes and opens for the selected shutter speed, if I have understood correctly from what I have read (I don't own any d300 or d3... yet).
     
  38. Woohoo my D300 only had 112 shots after reviewing an image (and that sounds about right. I went picture happy the first day) Thanks for the useful software Shun (Opanda)
     
  39. Just out of curiosity: When recording images taken in dual (NEF/JPEG) mode, does that count as one photo or as two?

    Thanks for any answers...
     
  40. i tried the opanda and it works for my d40x, but not for the d300 and d70
     
  41. I figured why. I shoot in raw 98 percent of the time. That is why not all the image data is coming up
     
  42. ShunCheung

    ShunCheung Moderator

    Right. If you use Opanda, you should use JPEG images straight from the camera. The EXIF data could be stripped off if you edit the JPEG.
     
  43. I found a simple, online tool to read EXIF data. http://regex.info/exif.cgi
    Pretty simple to use. Just upload a jpg and wait. Then read the data.
     
  44. wow, maybe I am just dumb,,, but I tried looking for any semblance of the files taken in teh "regex" and I cannot find a thing.

    Where is it???
     
  45. I haver read both the EXIF and PathFinder programs and cannot figure how to use them. How do I connect the program to the last image I shot on iPhoto? I have OS X 10.4.11. Thanks.
     
  46. If anyone ever looks here anymore, it's not even that complicated. Open the last shot the camera took; if it's a JPEG, then, by default, it'll open in Preview on any Mac. Use Tools > Inspector, then look on the More Info > Nikon tab for a parameter called ShutterCount. No special application required.
     

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