david_payumo1 Posted July 15, 2000 Share Posted July 15, 2000 I thought people should tell us why they think the LF page should or should not be a part of Photo.net. Surveys are good but a discussion is important. I think it could be a good idea because we can get a search engine. However it is bad because we would be part of that 35mm group which has a very different view. Another question I have is how would it be a part of photo.net? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilhelm Posted July 15, 2000 Share Posted July 15, 2000 NOT! Photographers who photograph with the kind of stuff that we put up with (and sometimes even bragg about) should definitely be segregated from people in the real world. Their laughter would be just too traumatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_goldfarb Posted July 15, 2000 Share Posted July 15, 2000 The "MF Q&A" forum on photo.net doesn't seem to suffer much from being in such close proximity to the "General(ly 35mm) Photography" Q&A, so I wouldn't worry about that too much. <p> I would worry more about the potential commercialization of photo.net, the possibility of banner ads in the future, and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee_nadel1 Posted July 15, 2000 Share Posted July 15, 2000 keep this site right here it has more of a serious involvement then photonet large format is a relgion or a way of life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marv5 Posted July 15, 2000 Share Posted July 15, 2000 NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!! <p> I'm sorry if this hurts some feelings or steps on someone's toes........but if you are to lazy to search for information and feel you need it handed to you at someone else's expense in time and effort then you aren't going to make it in large format anyway so stick with your minature cameras. Large format is a hard task master, it demands that you are faithful to it and work for your rewards. This site mirrors that need for dedication. If you really need archives, write things down, book mark, show a little sel reliance. Just don't ruin a good thing for the rest of us. <p> This forum, up until the last couple of weeks has been free of the whiners and flamers that abound else where. The quality and content is second to none in the forums that are available. I'll trade a site free of banners and ads any day for a little extra effort in locating information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altaf Posted July 15, 2000 Share Posted July 15, 2000 Yes, elitism is stupid. THe more people that know about LF the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill_lindley Posted July 15, 2000 Share Posted July 15, 2000 NO!, NO!, NO! Please leave the LF Home page as it is. This has been my learning place. A way to talk to others and learn by what they are doing. Let's not be exclusive, but we do practice an art that has little to do with 35mm photography, thats why many of us got involved in it. Please stay as you are!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qtluong Posted July 15, 2000 Share Posted July 15, 2000 <b>Editor</b>: the poll is just was meant as a quick andcheap way to test the waters. It requires only 5 secondsof anybody's time to answer, and if enough people do so,can give an idea of where to go. Again the URL of the poll is<a href ="http://tools.arsdigita.com/voxpopuli/ViewPoll?poll_id=1966">http://tools.arsdigita.com/voxpopuli/ViewPoll?poll_id=1966</a>.<p>In the future I will conduct a more detailed survey,and at that point we will discuss in depth what isdesirable for the LF community, what are the possible options,and which changes should be done or avoided.<p>The sure thing is that the integrity of the LF contents will bepreserved in any future option. <p>In the while, thanks to everybody for contributing to the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_finley Posted July 15, 2000 Share Posted July 15, 2000 A search function would be welcome and I lurk in Photo Net almost as much as I do here, but I would hate to see this site intigrated just for that. Large Format has a unique character to it (because of subject, people, or moderators?) that I would hate to lose. I don't have anything against "that 35mm group" but why not keep what we have? Photo Net could add LF to it's MF and Nature forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_yates Posted July 15, 2000 Share Posted July 15, 2000 There is a search function! At least, it shows up on my browser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff_thompson Posted July 15, 2000 Share Posted July 15, 2000 Search engine??? Where is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat_krentz Posted July 15, 2000 Share Posted July 15, 2000 I would vote to keep the site where and the way it is, you can call me any name you want but let's keep it seperate! If I want 35mm or MF, I know where to go and find it, the thing I like about this forum it that most of the people who use it have a brain, and respect other's as having the same, and are willing to share what they have learned. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevor_crone1 Posted July 16, 2000 Share Posted July 16, 2000 I can only agree with Bill Mitchell above. Trevor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_herrick Posted July 16, 2000 Share Posted July 16, 2000 I vote it stays the way it is. The quality of discussion here seems much higher than on photo.net and I would hate to see it be diluted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_werner2 Posted July 16, 2000 Share Posted July 16, 2000 I could only see moving it if there was some clear advantage to be gained and the integrity of this forum wasn't compromised. I spend a reasonable amount of time at photo.net as well (largely since I am just starting LF) but it just isn't the same. In spite of what I think are the real efforts of the moderators it's largely a place to ask insightful questions like "is the Tamron 28-200 zoom just as sharp as my Nikon 50mm prime?" (A: why do you care, you obviously aren't spending any time taking pictures ;-)) and to flame newcomers for not searching the archives or not having read a library of photography books before asking their question. <p> I found this site through photo.net. But if someone is concerned about its relative obscurity I would suggest asking Greenspun to put a prominent reference to this forum and the Large Format Page on photo.net as a way to encourage traffic here without losing the character of this place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpshiker Posted July 16, 2000 Share Posted July 16, 2000 This is still a nice place to visit, despite the late disruptions of some anonymous and my vote is for the forum to stay as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george_nedleman Posted July 16, 2000 Share Posted July 16, 2000 Leave it alone. This site is very consistant with good advice and loads of humor in equal amounts. I have never failed getting any info I needed. George Nedleman DDS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimi_axelsson1 Posted July 16, 2000 Share Posted July 16, 2000 I like this site. It's thankfully free from blinking ad-banners, and the lay-out is a clean and no-frills. For me who use a somewhat dated (stone-age, if you ask me) computer, the fast loading times of the pages are a gift from the heavens. It delivers the information that I need, and the general quality of the discussions are high. <p> I would not like this site to be a part of photo.net, however clever and nice the Greenspun site desig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julio_fernandez Posted July 16, 2000 Share Posted July 16, 2000 No. The dilution of subject matter from the 35mm side would eventually render what would be left of LF content useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_briggs2 Posted July 16, 2000 Share Posted July 16, 2000 I'm not sure whether it would be good to move the LF page tophoto.net. I don't think it would make as much difference as someother users think. For example, the Medium Format Digest on photo.netisn't polluted with 35 mm questions, nor with questions like "areNikon zooms really better than Sigma zooms", as some fear would be thecase if the LF pages moved there. Clearly the LF pages and the LFQuestion and Answers Forum would be separate pages rather than mergedinto the main questions section. For some reason the LF QuestionsForum is much more active than the Medium Format Digest. Is thedifference because LF photographers need more assistance since theformat is more different from 35mm and because in-person contact withexperience LF photographers is harder to come by? Because of thecommunity that has developed? Because the Large Format Pages give theQuestions Forum prominence? Would any of this change if the LF Pagesmoved? <p> Would moving ease the work that Q.-Tuan Luong does? (P.S. Weappreciate it!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne3 Posted July 16, 2000 Share Posted July 16, 2000 NO. And the (new and wonderful) search engine is at the main entryhttp://http.cs.berkeley.edu/~qtluong/photography/lf/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn_kroeger Posted July 16, 2000 Share Posted July 16, 2000 It ain't broke, so don't fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_quinn Posted July 17, 2000 Share Posted July 17, 2000 No. Love it as it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis_vener_photography Posted July 17, 2000 Share Posted July 17, 2000 I ts hould be part ofphoto.net the same way that the Nature and Medium Format forums are: there and linked but seperate from the general photography forum. The purpose of these forums is educatiuon not clique-ism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fw1 Posted July 17, 2000 Share Posted July 17, 2000 Well, it would be good to have a search function, and also to be able to follow the history of individuals' posts (one of the best features of photo.net), but photo.net and this forum have rather different characters. So, please leave this site where it is, but please add a little more user-friendly functionality if possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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