bryan_richards Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 Fantastic site. I can't believe how much info is here in the various tutorials. I'm absorbing as fast as I can, but I have a shoot coming up and I need some gut level advice from EOS users. I'm a computer programmer, so the theory in the tutorials here is lovely... but sometimes you just need some real world advice. Forgive me if my questions seem adolescent or naive... but I am an advanced amateur who is about to graduate from my point/shoot Sony F717 to an EOS 20D (haven't bought it yet... but planning). The biggest reason why I am making the leap is so I can get more control over depth of field. You can see some pics I've shot at www.bryanlamb.com/demo_pics/. I'm simply not happy with the quality of the shots I'm getting with the Sony 717 anymore. Given that... I'm hoping all you helpful folks can analyze the online portfolio of a fantastic photographer (Andy McFarland) whose work really inspires me and let me know which lenses / filters you would choose to accomplish the look / quality he achieves. It's at http://www.amaginations.com/am_portfolio.asp? Dept_ID=0&NavButton=02&Main=Y He says in his FAQ: "I shoot with Canon digital equipment and lenses. I currently use Canon D60 and Canon 10d bodies and 3 different lenses: 50mm f/1.4, 28-70mm f/2.8 and 70-200mm f/2.8. Since I do a majority of my work on location, I depend most of the time on Mother Nature to provide me with my light source. I don't use reflectors other than natural ones and I'm not that great with the artificial lights (yet)." Since I have no experience with this more advanced level of equipment (i.e. EOS 20 w/prime lense), I can't help but wonder if there is more to the story. As they say.... "the devil's in the details". - How would you attain this look with EOS gear, generally speaking?<br>- Are certain filters mandatory for shots like these?<br>- Do you think there was significant Photoshop enhancement (curves / dodge / burn / sharpen / blur, etc.)<br>- How is he able to get such nice skin tone and facial lighting when a shot is pretty clearly backlit? One of my favorites is 11 rows down, furthest column to the right. This shot is obviously top/backlit but her face and eyes are still so bright. He says he doesn't use reflectors... so I'm left to wonder... is an EOS 20D with a prime lense going to get me results like that right out of the box? Also... bottom row / first image on the left... the flesh tones are amazing, the eyes and teeth are so sharp and inviting, yet the background is so nicely dark and out of focus. How much of this is done by the gear, and how much do you think was achieved in Photoshop? Thanks so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emre Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 If it's the portrait of the girl with the belt (?), all you need is a telephoto (the 70-200 f/2.8). I see very little retouching. In other words, you can do this easily, given the right light (the crucial element). Judging by the facial highlights, I think he also used a reflector. Easy peasy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryan_richards Posted January 23, 2005 Author Share Posted January 23, 2005 Thanks. Model is "Olympia". I think she has a scarf around her neck or something. I'm new to the whole detachable lense thing. I've heard that a 85mm 1.8 would be a good choice for work like this. Do you think the quality of a fixed prime would be any better than what you mentioned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryan_richards Posted January 23, 2005 Author Share Posted January 23, 2005 Oh yeah... the 2nd one I mentioned DOES have a belt (and that's about it!). Sorry. So if one were using the 70-200mm f/2.8... how far away would you be to achieve that depth of field? Where on the 70-200 range would you be? This is all very new to me. The 717 is very simple, but yields very simple results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike dixon Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 Andy is a regular contributor at the website <a href="http://garageglamour.com/">Garage Glamour</a>. He's quite forthcoming about his equipment and techniques.<P> A listing of his posts there can be found at <a href="http://www.garageglamour.com/ubbthreads/dosearch.php?Cat=&Forum=All_Forums&Words=258&Match=Username&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=allposts">this link</a>. You may need to register as a member at Garage Glamour before the link works (it's free). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris_lancrescent Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 How come a significant amount of photographers listed on Garage Glamour got predominantly nudes in their portfolios? Does that attract more models or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axel-cordes Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 50mm f/1.4 is great for Portrait on 1,6 factor... As you say, you are just starting, I can tell you, using this, will change your thoughts on photography, it's really a new experience, to go that open, and 50mm will result in "real" 80mm which is exactly fine for Portrait. Good luck! Regards Axel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryan_richards Posted February 3, 2005 Author Share Posted February 3, 2005 Yes. Thanks. In the time since I originally posted I have learned a HUGE amount by researching SLR technique to death, and by testing my new camera + lense rig. I got a used D60 with a new Canon 70-200mm IS, and I'm loving every minute of it. I've exercised every single setting variation I could think of with this setup so I now have a really solid understanding of the various interactions between aperture, ISO, white balance, and shutter speed... and using the onboard metering to get consistently bright photos. I can't believe the control and confidence I have after only a week of testing. Thanks so much for all your help getting me started. Now I can see just as you mentioned.... that an F/1.4 lense is exactly what I've been wanting and it will be perfect for the "eyes in focus / hair out of focus" shots I've been dreaming about. I can also see that I will never have a positive balance in my accounts ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryan_richards Posted February 3, 2005 Author Share Posted February 3, 2005 Thought you might wanna see a sample of one of my first pics :-)<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_a Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 One technique for getting the warm look to the images is to shoot at the "Overcast or Cloudy Day" setting on the camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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