midan_smith Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 <p>So, im planning on getting married soonish, i wonder if people have any thoughts on shooting their own weddings! For starters, my brother and dad have a pair of D80's between them with a few lenses and i can lend them some more useful lenses, and they both do plenty of casual and macro photography, and my father-in-law-to-be also used to do some semi-pro portrait photography, and i have a spare D80 i can lend him.. i can let one of them use my D700 and SB600. Furthermore, i will get them all to shoot in RAW, give me the results and i can happily do whatever postprocessing i feel like. So thats the plan. I think spelling out when i want specific shots taken should be easy enough ("see that beam of light! the camera, NOW!!!"), and i can even orchestrate a couple of shots.. i will set up all the cameras in advance to an auto ISO level which isnt too noisy with fastish glass, and my 3 chaps should be able to get some nice shots.</p> <p>Has anyone tried this? our wedding will be small scale and to a fairly low budget, so i dont intend to hire a pro, the only other thing would be that i have never shot a wedding myself, im a studio guy mostly, so i imagine we would have to be well organised with the group shots etc so as not to miss anything. The good thing is that the venue and church know us well and should be very obliging with letting shots be taken pretty much any time :) Personally, i would love to be able to shoot it, but being the groom and all, i think that might not get my first day of married life off to the best of starts!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rt_jones Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 <p>Poor brother and Dad. Big highlight of your life and they are now wedding vendors. :(<br>Will you have other family members parking the cars?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sattler123 Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 What would you tell a potential client who proposed the exact same approach? I think you (and I) know the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william-porter Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 <p>Richard,</p><p>I'm not sure what the question is here. Is it, should you ask your father and brother to photograph your wedding? Is it, should you yourself be paying attention to photography on your wedding day? Is it something else?</p><p>My first thought is, whatever the question may be, perhaps you should start by asking your bride-to-be about this. She might have an opinion.</p><p>My second thought is, I would never ask anybody to photograph a wedding who had any other part whatsoever to play in it. That is, not if I cared much about the photos. My wife and I got married on a shoestring and she asked her brother to take photos. It made sense at the time. He was an avid amateur photographer, then as now. Unfortunately, he was also a terrific guy who was involved in helping with other aspects of the wedding of his only sister—he and his wife catered the reception, etc. Anyway, bottom line is, we didn't end up with too many photos from our wedding. I would assume that your brother and father will have other pressures on them that day.</p><p>Now, it's your wedding and of course you can do what you like. Perhaps you can make it work. But this is one of those situations where the only advice any of us who are NOT in your shoes can give you is, don't do it!</p><p>Will</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midan_smith Posted February 26, 2010 Author Share Posted February 26, 2010 <p>ah, my brother and dad will be delighted to have something practical to do, especially my dad, if anything the problem would be keeping him away from the camera, and trying to get him into a single picture. I wont be standing behind them with a whip, as long as we get a few shots i am quite relaxed. And we probably will have family members helping with cars and stuff, it is going to be that type of small scale wedding where people help out, which is very much what our families are into anyway.</p><p>If i had a potential client tell me that they had a friend who would do it for free - which i know is common enough, then i politely wish them all the best and dont lose any sleep over it. In this case im not saying it to negociate a lower price, the 'potential client' is a pro photographer, and the three guys have excellent eyes for it, and know how to use the equipment. Sure, if i had a substantial budget, i would get the best pro whos work i know that i could afford. In this case i have confidence in the quality of the shooting, and i will be doing my own PP work, so i am not worried about getting mediocre results, i am just interested in strategy and possible tactics with the resources i have mentioned.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midan_smith Posted February 26, 2010 Author Share Posted February 26, 2010 <p>Will, your story confirmed my thoughts that i wont get a great many shots from people too close to proceedings, the only redeeming thing is that i have 3 people at it, and that should help a bit. Im not picking this option because i think its a brilliant idea that beats hiring a pro, its just that my budget for this is exactly £0! :)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbon_dragon Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 <p>Well the risk is that you won't end up with much in the way of decent pictures of the wedding right? If that is what happens, will you accept that? If so, it seems doable. I know that when I've tried to take pictures at a company event (I'm an amateur LANDSCAPE photographer) the results have been red-eye, poor flash performance, a reluctance to approach people, and of course not taking pictures while I myself was eating, talking, or was otherwise participating in the party. The result was a bunch of pictures that kinda sorta document the party with a couple that look reasonably good. But by no means would I call it competent.</p> <p>You might do better with a whole bunch of single use cameras. I don't know maybe it will all work out.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglas lee Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 <p>Bad idea, if you are really interested in photographs of your wedding. Also, why would want to do that to your bride?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spearhead Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 <p>There seem to be two things people are saying to think about. One is whether the person/people will be involved in other activities when they are shooting. Second is what you value out of it.</p> <p>My father shot my wedding. We had a small wedding, I think 45 guests. We aren't the types to hang up 100 photos or pass around an album. I wanted one nice photo of us together in the wedding location (a very interesting historic house) and that's what we have out in our home. I have a pile of other photos, perfectly fine, that we haven't looked at since the day we got them. We wouldn't put any more than that out.</p> Music and Portraits Blog: Life in Portugal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hal_b Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 <p>Well, the price is right. I say, know the risks and know what to expect. Then do the best you can. If you are going to lend out your D700, make sure the photographer knows how to set ISO and exposure compensation. Post processing can't do everything, you know. Be careful handing the flash to someone unfamiliar, too. Best way to use flash is on TTL with ceiling-bounce. This is an easy-cheesy no-nonsense setup that I think most people can use successfully without much training.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daverhaas Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 <p>The only risk that I'm aware of when doing this is that they forget to enjoy the day. If they're good with doing it and your future wife is good with it - then go for it. </p> <p>Dave</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midan_smith Posted February 26, 2010 Author Share Posted February 26, 2010 <p>im more than happy with a few nice shots, and i will do some shots with my fiancee looking gorgeous in her dress in the couple of hours we have between the wedding and reception start - this will be important to her. I think i will put the flash on one of the D80's to bounce, and let the D700 shoot at max3200ISO - the church has plenty of light happily.. so i can definately get some great shots of the bride in her dress, and as jeff says, i just want a few group shots, a couple in the service, and then the 3 shooters can take as many or as few as they like of the rest of the day, again like jeff's its going to be a small wedding with only 30 people or so, very cosy..</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_t5 Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 <p>it seems to me you already made up your mind about what you want to do by the time you posted this. might as well go to CL and get one of those persons that's willing to shoot for free... what you have to got to loose.</p> <p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografz Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 <p>Hey, if you don't have the cash, you do what you can.</p><p>When I got married I was flat broke after restoring my money-pit home ... finished just in time to hold the wedding there. I traded a painting to a commercial photographer I knew ... who never shot a wedding ... but did some nice formal shots. I loaded up my trusty old Leica, and whenever I could, shot some B&W candids ... other friends shot here and there. They gave me the negs and I processed prints later. I found a beautiful album on sale at a Hallmark store and filled it with prints, notes and mementos. My wife sits with a glass of wine and looks at it a couple of times a year. </p><p>Looking at my wedding photos that I now shoot for others, my wife does whimsically wish we had someone dedicated like that taking photos for us. </p><p>But, when you don't have the cash, you do what you can. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilambrose Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 <p>As Marc says, you do what you can. I'm not about to argue with that.</p><p>But I will caution you about one thing though. And it's not the quality of the photography. The real thing to think about is the quality of your wedding.</p><p>My brother got married last year and asked whether I'd do the photography. I advised him that I could be a photographer, or be his brother, but I'd struggle to be both. In fact it was even harder as I was also best man, so add in the complexity of delivering the best man's toast and photographing it the same time. The photography didn't suffer - it was covered in depth, and made a nice album. But I have no memory of his wedding except through the viewfinder. I spent little time with our parents, less time with his friends, and had no time to get to know his new family. I was at his wedding. I photographed his wedding. But I was absent in every way that was important.</p><p>With that experience, I can tell you that if I were the one getting married there is no way I would spend even the briefest moment considering photography. And I wouldn't ask anyone who was important to me to worry about it either; you risk diluting both their experience and your own.</p><p>Instead I would hire someone I trusted to take care of all that for me.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartMoxham Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 <p>My father took most of the photos at our wedding, I processed and printed the B&W films that he shot and the color films went to a lab. A photographer friend took a few photos at the small reception we had at our apartment and at some point I took some photos too. There is not much you can do if you don't have the money. I enjoy looking at the photos from time to time and at some point I will print a few new 8x10 prints. Much more important for us are the photos I have taken of our children growing up those for us are the real important memories.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midan_smith Posted February 26, 2010 Author Share Posted February 26, 2010 <p>Well, i had already made up my mind when i posted, my question was intended to be more looking to see if there were any tips/extra ideas based around my plan, on the basis that i dont shoot weddings, useful things i might not think of. I appreciate the concern here that the bride and i end up with poor quality shots from our special day, but i think what i am planning reduces that risk to being pretty low, and i can certainly make sure that the shots that i take of the bride will be good. She is more than happy with the plan, and we dont really have much choice, so we are trying to make the best of it.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midan_smith Posted February 26, 2010 Author Share Posted February 26, 2010 <p>Neil, that is an excellent point, i will take it to heart and make sure everyone knows that its not about the shots. In the intervening time i will keep my eye out for someone i might be able to swap favours with. Thanks for the advice guys :)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katrin_d. Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 <p>How soon is "getting married soonish"? Still enough time left to go on a Cup Rahmen diet to save up some money for photography? Any fellow photographers you can trade with, any special skills you have (plumbing, painting, car repairs ...) so you can barter with somebody you know? I know I'd happily shoot a wedding in exchange for proper pipes throughout the entire house. ;-)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gertle Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 <p>Here's my thoughts, and they go much in line with the other who agree that you do what you can. Since both fathers and a brother are willing to help in that regard, let them. If your father-in-law-to-be has some knowlege of posing and lighting, sounds like he's the one for the formals. With the three of them shooting there should be plenty of opportunity for them to get pix of the others.</p> <p>You should concentrate on being the groom. My experience, four weddings where I was taking photos and in the wedding party as well. It was an interesting experience and most of them came out ok, but much like Neil's experience, I would have like to have spent more time being father-of-the-bride or father-of the-groom.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.philwinterphotography. Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 <p>Leave the camera at home. Marriage is tough enough as is, and the last thing you want to do is anger your bride on your wedding day. If you do, she will never, never let you forget it. Congratulations!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nishnishant Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 <p>If the father of the bride, father of the groom, and the groom's brother are all taking shots, who's gonna be in the pics? *grin*</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nishnishant Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 <p>I was being light hearted above, best wishes for your wedding. :-)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2yellowdogs Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 <p>There's an old saying - a lawyer who represents himself has a fool for a client. The same applies here. Do what you'd advise someone else to do...hire a good photographer, enjoy your wedding day and trust the photos to a pro.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmanuel Enyinwa Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 <p>The question really has two prongs: does he want to take some pictures at his own wedding, and does he want to tell the REAL shooters what to do? I took pictures AT my wedding, but not OF my wedding, as we had a pro shoot it. I gave my Digital Rebel to a friend to take some casual shots I would late play around with, but she did not get in the way of the photographer. In casual moments, I also took some art shots myself, which I will post later, but all in good fun. I think you can do it, but the key is to not interfere with the person whose JOB it is to shoot the pictures. And, you posed the question to the wrong crows: photographers who are starving because of resourceful, or cheap, people like yourself who are literally taking food from their hungry lips. Anyway, good luck.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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