christian_fox Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 <p>The Nikon S was not designed for standard film - the length was short. If I use a standard 35mm cartridge in this camera, will it work? Will the film advance line-up each frame properly? </p> <p>I wonder why Japanese camera designers resisted the 35mm film format through three Nikon models - 1, M, and S?</p> <p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Film advance is a function of the camera, so film advance will line up the film properly with whatever format the camera is designed for. The problem is when you are printing with some automatic printer. Most of them will scan the film to line up the frame. But some may not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodeo_joe1 Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 <blockquote> <p>"I wonder why Japanese camera designers resisted the 35mm film format through three Nikon models - 1, M, and S?"</p> </blockquote> <p>Because it was a poor, but expedient choice by Oskar Barnack to use an overlong Double Cine Frame format in the first place. A conventional Cine frame of the time had a 4:3 aspect ratio, but when you put two of them side-by-side you get the odd 4:6 ratio we've been forced to get used to. A less oblong frame is much more generally useful and easier to compose into. It also gets you a couple more frames to the cassette.</p> <p>A strange thought occurs to me. Had Barnack chosen a more traditional aspect ratio, would Henri Cartier-Bresson have insisted on cropping to a 3:2 ratio, or just have gone with the flow and used whatever frame size Leica provided?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_driscoll Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 <blockquote> <p>or just have gone with the flow and used whatever frame size Leica provided?</p> </blockquote> <p>Surely yes - he'd just get used to seeing the picture with whatever framing he'd been given to work with.</p> <p>Interesting that Nikon tried 32 mm initially but then tried 34 mm before throwing in the towell and going with Leica's 36 mm. Why was that I wonder? </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_brown4 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 <p>Not sure what you mean? My first Nikon was an S with a 50/1.4. I only used 35mm film cassettes in it for a couple decades. Worked fine.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christian_fox Posted August 11, 2015 Author Share Posted August 11, 2015 <p>The reason why I presented the question is that Stephen Gandy on Cameraquest indicted that the Nikon S was designed to be used by a non-standard film size of 24x34. </p> <p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieter Schaefer Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 <blockquote> <p>would Henri Cartier-Bresson have insisted on cropping to a 3:2 ratio</p> </blockquote> <p>Why should he have? </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_h Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 <p>These Nikons used standard 35mm film, but they tried to set their own more logical to them frame lengths of 32 and then 34mm. It was more similar to cropping a shot than using non standard film.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christian_fox Posted August 11, 2015 Author Share Posted August 11, 2015 <p>Do you lose 1 mm off each each side with a Nikon S? </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodeo_joe1 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 <blockquote> <p>"Do you lose 1 mm off each each side with a Nikon S?"</p> </blockquote> <p>No. You lose 2mm off one side. Or you gain a better aspect ratio.</p> <p>Dieter. HCB was famous for never cropping the full-frame image from his Leicas, which had the now-standard 36x24mm (3:2) aspect ratio. It was a joke - sort of.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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