amie Posted November 19, 2002 Share Posted November 19, 2002 Hi. I'm looking to expand my high school senior market and would like to offer the very dramatic black & whites' to the girls. How do they get the very contrasty...white face look without applying tons of white make-up? or Do they? Can anyone help...if you know what look I mean? :>) Thanks Amie L'Sage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ross_hight Posted November 19, 2002 Share Posted November 19, 2002 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?topic_id=1481&msg_id=0043gk&photo_id=1130479&photo_sel_index=1&unified_p=1 (HTML ignorant, please excuse low-tech link) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hkbmac Posted November 19, 2002 Share Posted November 19, 2002 Flat glamour lighting, overexposed negatives, print at a high contrast grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aappelphotography Posted November 20, 2002 Share Posted November 20, 2002 Hey ho, for the white faces, try a red filter.It can also boost the contrast a litte bit. Greetz, André. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockflower Posted November 20, 2002 Share Posted November 20, 2002 Hi Amie, Can you give me some examples of what you mean? Linda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay_de_fehr Posted November 20, 2002 Share Posted November 20, 2002 Hi Amie. I assume by your post that you don't process your own film/prints, but please excuse me if that's not the case. Without seeing any specific examples of what you refer to, I'm assuming that you mean something like Ellen Von Unwerth's guess ads, or other work. These result from a combination of make up, lighting, exposure, development and printing. It's a matter of acheiving the desired contrast while retaining the desired detail. The dark makeup ensures detail in these important areas, while the contrast eliminates most of the detail in the "normal" skin tones. Place your skin tones on the appropriate zone (8 or so) which means giving an extra 2-3 stops exposure, and then develop to the desired contrast, which means testing/trial and error until you arrive at the results you like. Some films will be more useful than others, as will some developers,papers and paper developers. I get nice results using Tri-x rated at 100, or Verichrome Pan, which is sadly, discontinued. If your using a lab for processing, let them in on your goal, so that they can help you acheive it. If your doing your own processing, burn some film, it's really not that difficult an effect to acheive. Good luck.-jdf<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twmeyer Posted November 21, 2002 Share Posted November 21, 2002 Be careful with red filters... they will make red lipstick turn neutral, and make normally flushed lips the same tone as caucasian skin. <p>I photographed a bunch of high school kids in black and white at their rock and roll review. Got them as they came off stage on a black background with a 3x4 ft softbox and fill 1.5 to 2 stops below that main light. Delta 100 and extended the processing about 15%. Worked like a charm, looked suitable for "Spin" magazine. I'll try to scan one tonight for you... t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amie Posted November 22, 2002 Author Share Posted November 22, 2002 Hello...Thank you to all who responded. Here is what I got. I used one direct light - no softbox or umbrella and one backlight. I used TMAX100 and overexposed her face one stop. Developed the film normally. This is the look I was looking for...anyone with any other suggestions. Thanks again, Amie<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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