Rollei 6008, 4560 Magazine problem.

<p>The camera is a Rollei 6008 Integral, Serial number index xx3. I loaded the magazine with 120 film and placed it on the camera back, which I have done before. This time, the magazine adapter fits to the camera back, but the 4560 magazine pushes away from the magazine adapter and camera back, when I attach them to the camera. What could be causing this? It never happened before?<br>

I searched the forum and found similar issues that another person had, but I could not find an answer to my problem. When the magazine is closed, the magazine is not firmly being held in place inside the magazine adapter, when the magazine adapter and magazine are attached to the camera back. It seems that the hooks on the side of the magazine are not latching on to the magazine adapter, when the magazine and magazine adapter are attached to the camera back.<br>

The magazine actually pushes away from the magazine adapter and the camera back during attachment. If I have to send it for repairs, should I send the camera along with the 4560 Magazine and adapter? </p><div></div>

<p>Luther,</p>

<p>Check PN for postings about the <em>film gate</em>.<br>

<a href="/medium-format-photography-forum/00GplF">http://www.photo.net/medium-format-photography-forum/00GplF</a></p>

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I don't own the 4560 back so cannot answer is the film gate attached to your camera is the correct piece.<br>

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Joe</p>

<p>Ferdi,</p>

<p>I knew you'd have the correct answer. I hope I didn't make matters worse using the incorrect term for the film stage.</p>

<p>Joe</p>

<p>Joseph, <br>

I have used the term film gate as well. The German term is 'Filmbühne' which translates to film stage. Anyway translating German technical terms into English technical terms is tricky, both languages not being my first language.<br>

Ferdi.</p>

<p>Ferdi and Joseph,<br>

I am not sure about the film stage, because I used the camera with the 4560 back before and there was not problem. However, after your asking about the film stage, which I saw mentioned in some of your earlier posts, I looked again. Using a flashlight, I think that I confirmed the film stage is still in place. I have a picture of it, butI am not sure how to insert it into this response, using the Insert Image dialogue noted above. <img src="c:\users\luther\dropbox\camera%20uploads\2014=02-0914.36.10-filmstage.jpg" alt="" /> I do not think the picture is attached, but I am sending the message. I do not know how to remove the film stage. I see some metal, either chrome or nickel around its edges and to screws located below the loaded spool icon. I have a picture of all this. I just have to figure out how to attach it here.</p><div></div>

<p>Joesph,<br>

I checked the link, <a href="/medium-format-photography-forum/00GplF" rel="nofollow">http://www.photo.net/medium-format-photography-forum/00GplF</a> you provided me. I still see only two screws, which are located in the picture above. So, I do not think it has four screws. I cannot locate a second set of screws. I assume that the film stage is a newer one, since the camera has a serial index of xx3. I will try to gently lift the film stage off. I that does not work, then I will consider removing the two screws. After removing the film gate, I guess I will the older magazines will not work, unless the film gate is put back in place.</p>

<p>Luther,<br>

I'm at a disadvantage since I don't own the 4560 back. When my camera arrived the film stage was missing so I learned about its interchangeability for a variety of magazine options.<br>

I would locate the owners manual for both the 6008 and the 4560 to determine the correct hardware attachments when used in combination. You mentioned using the back before (strange word combination) without a problem. If your camera has the removable film stage maybe its improperly seated. Just a thought.<br>

Joe</p>

<p>Joseph,<br>

For clarity, I used the 4560 magazine and adapter on the camera without incident, once before. When I tried to use the 4560 magazine and adapter a second time, the problems started. According to the manual, the item I identified is the film gate and it appears to be properly seated. I guess I am just too careful. I took a small straight edge was able to gently lift the Film Stage off the camera back at a point between the two screws identified in the above picture. I will check to see if this works with the 4560 magazine and adapter. I have attached a picture demonstrating how I removed the film stage, which is held in place by a spring like mechanism that clamps against 4 small post beneath the film stage. I am sure, someone else will need this.<br>

Ferdi, was correct with his original assessment about the film stage. Recognizing the film stage and removing it is not very straight forward, until you do it the first time.</p>

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