Rewinded uncorrectly?

Discussion in 'Beginner Questions' started by jaylevent, Nov 2, 2017.

  1. This is my first time using an analog camera and i finished taking all the pictures in my roll. I tried to rewind using the instructions from the manual but realized i stopped at pic 9 or something. I then pushed the buttons again except it unrolled the film i think? My film frame counter has returned to 36 instead of the S it should be showing, but if i try to rewind again it doesnt do anything. Also, there is a little film advance indicator window and i think its showing me the same thing as when i loaded the camera. What should I do? My camera is a Nikon F-401x if that helps.
  2. What is this analog camera of which you speak?

    In any case, as long as the batteries in your camera are good and you initiated a rewind cycle by pressing the two buttons, there's no reason to think the film didn't rewind correctly. You should have heard a motor running for 10-20 seconds(I have an N4004, which is called the F-401 everywhere else in the world) and I don't remember it being a particularly fast rewinder. In any case, the camera is "smart" enough to keep rewinding until all the film is back in the can.

    I know Nikon says the counter should count backwards when you rewind the film, and I honesty haven't used mine enough to pay attention to whether or not that's the case. Generally, though, this style frame counter only resets when you open the back.
  3. If you have a changing bag, you could use that to open the camera inside it, and extract the film that way. If it's not fully wound back, you can do it manually (annoying little job, but doable). Lacking a changing bag, a completely dark room would also work, but it really needs to be completely dark.
  4. In an emergency, a heavy coat can be used as a changing bag. You need to close up the big holes somehow and put your arms into the sleeves from the end...
    here from the professional cameraman's handbook:
  5. Back in my very early days of photography before I even had a changing bag, I loaded reels for a while in a home-made set up. I took a box and put it down in a black garbage bag. When I needed to load reels or do any other dark, I'd go into a large walk-in closet, toss a blanket over my improvised changing bag, turn off the lights in the closet, and stuff a towel under the door. I'd also point the bottom of the box toward the door, with the open end facing me.

    That may have been overkill, but I never fogged any film doing that.

    BTW, I still sometimes put a box inside my changing bag. It makes things less stuffy and IMO easier to maneuver.
  6. You NEED a LARGE changing bag.
    I made the mistake of getting a small bag for 35mm. Why do I need a LARGE bag for 35mm? Well I found out the hard way.
    More air in a large bag, takes longer to get stuffy and sticky, vs. less air in a small bag.

    I like the idea of a box in the bag. That way I don't have to worry about snagging,cutting the bag with a scisors or can opener.
  7. Gary,

    Shooting sheet film was what made me break down and buy one. At the time, I was only piddling around with a 2x3 miniature Crown Graphic, but went ahead and bought one large enough(barely) to allow me to handle 8x10. Now that I shoot a lot of 4x5, I'm happy that it's plenty roomy for a box of film and several holders.

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