Rating System Proposal & Vote

Discussion in 'Photo.net Site Help' started by G-P, Mar 27, 2017.

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Like or dislike the proposal

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  3. Indifferent - don't care for ratings much

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  1. Frankly I didn't know, the photos that were shown at the bottom of threads were the ones submitted for rating. I did benefit from looking at them though. Sometimes I am reading a person's comments and thinking, this guy is a complete nutjob. Then I see one of his photos that makes me view his/her entire portfolio. Then I come to think, he/she may be a nutjob, but a good photographer :D.
     
  2. [QUOTE="...<snip>. I got thoroughly sick of seeing the same photos by the same people over and over again.[/QUOTE]
    If you ignore a user, what happens? I don't know because I don't have any ignores, but is this a work around?
    BTW, I can see where Julie's issue could be common. Since the change from the old format, I have become much more active in the No Words forum, but do notice a predominance of a few of us. Don't mean to be off-putting to other users, but....?
     
  3. Yes, that may work better. In the old site, we used to get an icon (film roll) beside our names depending on how much we participate.
     
  4. I personally don't care too much about the ratings, but from what I've read in the past, many people were infuriated by what looked like intentional lowball ratings, apparently as either revenge or to knock them down as a competitor in the top-rated photos listings.

    My solution to this sort of gaming is, rather than try to control it, to only allow raters to give a photo slight nudges up or down. But at the same time, I realize that there may not be enough raters to move things around much. I don't know what the ultimate answer will be, but I think that photo.net needs to somehow turn it into an addictive game in order to keep enough subscribers.

    On a slightly different note, I come here mainly to answer questions, not to look at photos (I've spent my adult worklife in professional photography, including photofinishing, so I've seen plenty). The thing that currently irritates the tarnation out of me is that I can't limit my views to just forum questions - it seems that 2/3 of the forum listings are the "no words" sort. The hassle of wading through them tends to sap my ambition, and it seems a good way to help drive off technical experts, and even technical questions. I hope this doesn't happen.
     
  5. Norman 202

    Norman 202 i am the light

    I don't see that as a problem. Imagine someone new to photography just starting out and seeking inspiration. Looking at, and learning from, the most LIKED photographers would be a good place to start. And for all the grief about likes, the top LIKED photographs are pretty decent photographers with a wide range of interests.
     
  6. Norman 202

    Norman 202 i am the light

  7. I've been submitting photos to the No Words forum for a couple of weeks now and here's my observation. Likes seem reciprocal. I'm not giving out Likes. The first 3 photos I submitted got quite a few Likes. I've received fewer as the days go by. I see a lot of Likes being given back and forth. I suspect (suspect, am not sure) that Likes are being gamed in very much the same way as ratings were in the past. You scratch my back and I scratch yours. Several members have come through and simply liked every photo in a thread. Like is a modern day means of immediate gratification and about as hollow a gesture as I can conceive of, short of some chauvinist male patting a woman on the butt as she walks by. Likes are the Miss Popularity contest of the Internet and show me nothing of substance. It would be interesting to correlate number of likes given with number received. I don't see where we can find out how many likes a user has given. But I bet there would be an interesting relationship between giving and receiving. You may do so, Norman, but I won't be finding good photographers based on number of likes. I will continue to look through the various queues of photos and let the photos, not the likes, draw my attention. TEHO.
     
  8. Norman 202

    Norman 202 i am the light

    Fred, there is so much petty hatred in your post, I suggest you go and look up the meaning of Like
     
  9. Norman, consider the difference between there being petty hatred (hatred, seriously? perhaps you're lucky enough never to have experienced hatred because you seem not to know what it is) in my post and there being petty hatred read into my post. I'm sorry that my distaste for Likes puts you off so. Perhaps a thicker skin would suit you.
     
  10. Whether the yardstick employed is 'likes' or ratings, what rises to the top is seldom what I personally am most interested in. Under the old system at PN I assumed that I would have to look around and dig deep to find images to my liking. I don't gravitate towards the bestsellers shelf at the bookstore nor do I decide which movie to watch based on box-office sales. I'm content to chart my own course and let others like, or rate, or not, as they may choose.
     
  11. Norman 202

    Norman 202 i am the light

    Gordon, finding the list of the most LIKED photographers is not immediately obvious. If you want to hunt around hundreds of mediocre images to find images you like you can still do that.
     
  12. Showing a list of photographers with most likes tells me, these are the photographers whose works many people like. It doesn't help me to find works or photographers that I like.
     
  13. Norman 202

    Norman 202 i am the light

    my post was about helping new photographers not seasoned bores
     
  14. What you need to do is pre-like your pictures.

    PreLiked.jpg
     
    Norman 202 likes this.
  15. I thought about that too. New photographers can see which photographers are popular and get an idea of what the world of photography looks like and get inspired. The problem is, their idea or inspiration would be kind of one-sided and somewhat misguided. Its not what they see in the top liked works (I am sure there are lot of good works there), its what they miss. When I first joined photography, I was also inspired by the top liked or rated works and for a while thats what I aimed for as kind of a gold standard. This is where my mistake seeped in. There are so many schools of thought and quality works, which will never make it to the top, yet are goldmines. I think, new users should be exposed to all schools of thought in photography, not just the popular ones. Thats how one learns to think and see independently and develop a path of his/her own.

    I see this whole like thing as an analogy to high school. There are always a few girls or boys who are the most popular kids. When a new kid joins the school, they are the ones who they make friends with. However, there are shy kids who may not readily socialize with a lot of other kids, just because they aren't interested to be popular, or their taste for relationship is very specific. Meeting and interacting up close, those kids actually can be really good friends to newcomers, but they are usually obscured by the popular kids who other kids seek to copy and emulate.
     
  16. I think Julie is Kim Jong-Un in disguise.
     
  17. It would appear from what I've just been reading that I've been misusing the "Like". Can I only like a Photograph that meets a certain high standard.
    In respect to the pics in the "No Words" a like is the only option to use even if it's only to show appreciation for posting.
    This thread started out about a rating system, I don't see liking something the same as rating it.
     
  18. Norman 202

    Norman 202 i am the light

    @julie, almost perfect, thanks
     
  19. Norman 202

    Norman 202 i am the light

    @gerald, me too. i always assumed my likes were, at least, a subliminal message that i wanted to have their babies
     
  20. Norman 202

    Norman 202 i am the light

    @Supriyo, i don't have a clue how to respond to your pretentious post. Are you Fred in disguise?
     

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