raymond_ocampo Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Hi. Sorry for a silly or obvious question (specifically for the Bogen Background Support System Model 314/314B), but here goes. What's the proper way of using the horizontal bar? When I first tried using it, I couldn't insert this bar thru the paper roll (like you would use a the toilet paper holder. Great analogy, huh?) The ends of the horizontal bar was just too big to fit thru the roll. I thought those ends of the bar could be removed because I can see it can rotate freely. But I can't figure out and see any release button to press. There are small allen screws, but I don't think this is meant to be removed at all. The minimalist instructions were no help. As a result, I just simply slump the roll of paper from the floor and onto the horizontal bar then down the other end of the floor which makes it a waste because I have to unroll twice the length of needed paper and then roll it back again (creating creases for my next shoot). Any help on how to insert the bar to the paper roll so I can simply hand the roll rather than lay it on the ground. Thanks in advance.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury_cohen Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 There has to be a way for the ends to detach from the crossbar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymond_ocampo Posted November 21, 2008 Author Share Posted November 21, 2008 That's what I'm thinking as well, but there's no obvious release switch that I can see. Anyone who owns this particular background support can shed light? TIA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Ingold Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 This bar is designed for use with cloth backgrounds which have a wide loop sewn into one edge. You might be able to screw in the clamp and turn the clamp handle lengthwise (like you do if you store it in the original tube. However, the 314 is very light duty and probably not suitable for an heavy paper roll. Most people use a piece of 3/4" schedule 80 water pipe, which is supported by brackets on a wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymond_ocampo Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 Okay. Thanks, Edward. I guess that's why the bar end isn't removable to accommodate a paper roll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomzinn Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Remove the set screws on the end of the Bogen crossbar and slide it through the roll tube. After the crossbar is through the tube, install the set screws and attach to your stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymond_ocampo Posted November 26, 2008 Author Share Posted November 26, 2008 Hi, Tom. You're referring to those small Hex screws, right? I was thinking of doing that, but the inconvenience of setting up and changing rolls for a different background will eventually cause the misplacement of the tiny screws. I guess it's not meant to be used with a paper roll(?) I'm surprised Bogen/Manfrotto hasn't re-thought this design aspect to allow easy removal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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