emile_de_leon9 Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 Hi all, I just got done contact printing a bunch of 12x20's for a quick coffeehouse exhibition. While I was putting them into frames at the last minute, I was thinking... these are kind of small, only 12x20...wouldnt 20x24 be that much better? Then I got thinking about a 20x24 camera and the contacts I could make with that! Well as I was hanging the exhibit this afternoon, right as I was finishing up someone called my name, and low and behold, there is a person I used to teach drums to 25 years ago, now grown up with a family etc. He didn't know I was into photography but liked the prints and better yet, mentioned that he had a bunch of photo stuff in his family print shop that he needed to get rid of and... did I want it? Needless to say I said I'll be right there and he proceded to show me the stuff. Well... there was my 20x24 camera...but man was it BIG. He had a room devoted to it as well as all the acoutrements, film, auto processors, contact paper, etc. I left with the 480mm Apo Nikkor.It had what looks like a modern type packard shutter behind the lens.My question is this...since I know absolutely nothing about the printing industry I dont know what is worthwhile to take in terms of film, contact paper, etc. Are any standard old technology printing shop materials applicable to todays B&W photography? There is the camera with vaccume back that I definately want... possibly to use for an enlarger or maybe to convert to a 20x24 indoor camera.Could the vaccume back be used for a contact printing frame? Has anyone here converted a camera of this type for personal use.Your help is most appreaciated! Thanks in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edward_burlew Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 Clude Buthcher in Florida, The AA of the Everglades convrted one to an enlarger for his 12x20's. He is on the photographers database on this site. You could do a back like AA did when he converted an ols wooded portrait camera into his enlarger, the older books by AA show the back and the 36 lights in it, he turned them on and off to dodge or burn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_lipka3 Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 Vacuum printing frame for plate burning is a great thing for the ultra large format contact prints. Keeps the negative tight to the enlarging paper for the most delicate hightlights. The process camera can be used to create enlarged negatives from regular sized silver prints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_haynes Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 About 5 years ago I too was on the receiving end of a process camera (from a weekly newspaper) and since it's been a valuable asset in my darkroom. I use the vertical stat camera both as an upside-down enlarger capable of prints up to 18x22 and use the hinged, flip-over vacuum easel for contact printing. The Screen stat camera I got was just about perfect for my uses. It has a 4-florescent-tube lower light source wired into the timer/computer with a hinged overglass to keep everything flat. What I did was to cut out rubylith masks and tape them in the center for the various negative sizes I use (4x5, 5x7, 8x10). This allows me to use the easel reference marks and also lets me "float" a print with the black film-holder border on the next size larger paper, as in 11x14 on 16x20 paper, etc. The entire camera is about the size of a washing machine and is capable of enlargment/reduction from 25% to 400% with two APO process lenses, At the top right is a hinged ground glass with reference marks corresponding to the marks on the easel. This is used to focus the negative (as with a view camera), then the ground glass is swung up out of the way and the paper is placed on the vacuum easel, the vacuum turned on, and the easel flipped over where the GG was for the exposure, which is timed with a built-in digital timer. Any burning or dodging is done between the lens and negative. Also, if using VC paper, filters can be placed right on top of the back of the lens inside the bellows. For Contact printing I converted the camera's built in "bump" light, which was used to "flash" the litho film for pre-exposure, to hold a standard light bulb. The arm for the bump light was already placed centered over the easel in it's "loading" orientation. So all I have to do to make a contact print is place the paper on the vacuum easel, lay a piece of glass over it , turn on the vacuum and then the light (a 100 watt bulb) which is also wired into the camera's digital timer. Two years ago, I did 10 portfolios of 52-8x10 Azo prints each (one for each week of the year 2000) using this method and it worked beautifully! And, did I mention that it also has an on-board digital densitometer that reads both reflected and transmitted densities? All in all, quite a deal just to haul off an "obsolete" piece of equipment that was in their way. I believe these vertical cameras are much more useful as darkroom enlarger because of the compact size, but I also have friends who've converted the horizontal ones (with the train-track-type focus rails) as enlargers and to do copy work. Many of these cameras are around collecting dust and sometimes (as in my case) the owners are more than happy to just have someone take them away. I'm certainly glad I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jochen_S Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 I just work at a printshop but didn't get no stuff. The Films used for offsetprinting seem to be somehow similar to technical pan, usually no halftones. Sometimes there are contact copying machines for films. Maybe You could use them to make slides. Modern Prepressfilms are quite thin, so check your vacuumstuff, if strong enough. Don't rely completely on it. I had some plates ruined through airbubbles between plate and film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynn_gallo Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 I have in my posession a Goodkin Astro vertical stat camera. It has a vacuum back for film size 16" x 20" and an 18" x 24" copy board. I don't have the heart to put this good working camera in the dump. If anyone can use it and can take it away, they can have it for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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