Discussion in 'Abstract' started by ajhingel, Nov 15, 2016.
Landa Park Lake snake grass
Miss Piggy is hiding in the leaf pile.
Leaves a warm feeling
At Water's Edge . . .
Personally I would see all these images as abstract, although to various degrees, because you see forms, textures, lines, light and shadows before you, in some cases recognise known features and objects of nature.
The last one of Michael, is maybe the closest to be just a nature shot but the color sparks in the tree to the left of the frame and the strong presence of the branches on the right have, as I see it abstract features to it.
Anders, did you notice a slight painterly effect in my image? It's the result of using an angled brush stroke filter.
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Michael, yes, I believe, that was the case. I never manage to get something satisfactory in abstract terms by brushstroke filters and prefer working in-camera and blur and eventually grain filters. For me 90% of an abstract image based on nature views are done in framing (sometimes cropping) and camera settings like Bill's above - if I'm not mistaken.
Snow geese in flight, straight from the camera.
This is not an abstract. And I am not Magritte.
This might be an abstract. I'm thinking about it ...
The last three last ones are abstract, according to my compass - and Julie is not Magritte. Me neither by the way
Intimations of nature
Couldn't find my original print easily, so here is a copy from a book frontispiece.
Then, please, Arthur explain the relation between intimations and abstraction as you see it. It would help us to understand.
As I would understand it there are surely a role for intimations in images which at first view are abstract without immediate and direct link to known forms or subjects. The intimation would be the vehicle towards the known. Your image of violins would however more be symbolism or surreal than abstract, I would think.
With so many opportunities to photograph nature as an abstract, why would one need imitation? Wouldn't that be another thread?
Laura, the word was intimation and not imitation, two quite different things.
Anders, thanks for your comment and question. You may well be right to classify my image as surreal (which can also be abstract of course), but I think also that we often evoke the term surrealism for subjects that are not principally in that category and also we apply other categories to images that are clearly abstract (or an abstraction of nature or whatever, if you will).
To me, my listening to "The lark ascending" on violin by Vaughan-Williams triggered my creativity and simultaneously (within a few days of the former) seeing the yearly migrations of more than a million snow geese that stop over "chez nous" (yes we are lucky).
So I went into the darkroom for a few evenings to produce (arduously, as a multiple enlarger projected impressions on the same paper) this "photographic collage" to make this abstraction of nature. I love this kind of process that is less accidental than stumbling upon something in nature that appears to us as abstract or an abstraction. I think it embodies art in the (or as the) photographic approach.
Did I address your question? I admit to often going off in other directions of interest when stimulated by one.
Authur, you're right, my mistake. No excuses, I just missed it.
Nothing better for abstracts than the scum that forms on top of water!
Arthur, thanks, I like your account on the process you have been through when creating the violin image, but , no! , you did not really answer my question above. I repeat it hoping that it is meaningful:
As I would understand it, there are surely a role for intimations in images which at first view are abstract without immediate and direct link to known forms or subjects. The intimation would be the vehicle towards the known.
My shot is (I think) unmanipulated, shot through an airplane window over salt water.
Thanks. I guess that the violins are a suggestion (intimation) of geese (If one turns the image upside down the violins seem to even more closely resemble them, although a second intimation is in the form presented by ensemble of multiple violins). In this case I think my image accords quite well with what you suggest.
reflection in a puddle, not abstract but certainly nature
Very nice, Gordon.
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