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Portrait Glass for a Canon 5D


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<p>I have a Canon 5D and I'm interested in buying a lens especially for portraiture (particularly bridal and photojournalism). I've just spent a ton on a few lenses and a new camera, so I'm hoping to really pinch some pennies on my newest glass purchase. Any ideas on the best portrait glass for a Canon 5D? <br>

Any suggestions would be very much appreciated. Thanks.</p>

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<p>You didn't list what you have currently. That might help cut focus (no pun intended) the suggestions a little.<br>

Something in the short telephoto range is what's usually recommended. What have you so far? I'm guessing you probably don't already have the 85mm L or you'd not be asking. There is a soft-focus 85mm that might be helpful for portraiture, since it softens some of the features... makes a nice portrait lens and doesn't cost what L glass costs.</p>

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<p>Thanks Thomas. I currently have two lenses: the 70-300mm f4 and the 18-50mm f2.8 (both by Sigma). I was just looking at an 85mm Canon, which was recommended to me by a photographer acquaintance. I'm currently building my collection, so I don't want to spend tons, but I am willing to sacrifice for quality. I just don't want to part with too much more money at the moment. <br>

Any suggestions? </p>

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<p>I thought that the Sigma 18-50 2.8 you already have would not work on a 5D.<br>

From the reviews that i have read, the Canon 85 1.2 or 85 1.8 and the 135 2 are the lenses for portrait on a full frame camera.<br>

The 50 1.8 is a good focal length for portraits on a crop sensor camera, it is the cheapest lens from Canon. So maybe you can start of with that.</p>

 

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<p>Hi Marcel, I don't know if the previous versions didn't work with the 5d, but I just recently purchased mine and it was a newer version (they had an older version available that I bought mistakenly and then returned). But my lens does work with my 5d, thank goodness. <br>

Thanks for the recommendations. I'm probably going to go with the 85/1.8. </p>

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<p>Off topic ... but ... regardless of which version of the Sigma 18-50/2.8 you have, none of the two version is intended to be used on a fullframe camera like the 5D. It does physically mount, and it will take images, but it will badly vignette. Look at the name of the lens ... it contains a "DC" designator. This is Sigmas way to indicate this lens is to be used on crop-1.6 cameras.</p>
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<p>Either the 85mm f1.8 or the 100mm f2.0 are ideal portrait lenses on a full frame camera and are essentially designed to be just that. There's no real need to pay for the 'L' glass in this focal length unless you really don't care about money or you rely on your gear to make a living. Even then the 'L' lenses are not strictly better options as both the lenses I mention are excellent and some of the best lenses Canon makes especially considering the attractive price.<br>

I use the 100mm f2.0 a lot, originally on a film camera but I continue to use it as a portrait lens on my crop sensor 40D. It has a 160mm equivelent in this case so gives things a flat 'fashion' look but still a good choice for me.<br>

The choice of 85mm or 100mm is really just up to preference, I went with the 100mm because it seemed a more versatile choice alongside a 50mm standard. </p>

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<p>What's wrong with using your 70-300 f4 zoom at say, 100mm?</p>

<p>My 24-105 f4 performs nicely wide open at that focal length, nice bokeh etc. The 5D (original) also performs very nicely at high ISO.</p>

<p>I think the fewer lenses you have to switch between, the more likely you will be to nail shots you'd otherwise miss while fiddling with rear lens caps.</p>

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<p>ALSO:<br>

- you can use your 18-50mm f2.8 at 50mm f2.8- a very usable focal length and aperture for portraits</p>

<p>- keep in mind that the 85mm f1.8 shot wide open will leave you needing very critical focus due to the shallow depth of field. You'll probably end up stopping down a little bit, to 2.8 or 4 just to ensure that what you want in focus is indeed in focus.</p>

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<p>Rainer, thank you for that information. You're absolutely right, I didn't realize. Now I'm not sure of what to do with this lens...hold on to it in case I purchase another model camera (not likely in the next year, at least), or sell it. I haven't even used it yet. Frustrating. </p>
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<p>If you can take it back to where you bought it and swap it for something else, I would do that.</p>

<p>I haven't tried the Sigma 18-50, but my Tamron 17-50/2.8 (which is also intended for crop-1.6 only) will vignette at every focal length when used on fullframe, not just a bit, but severe. I moved to fullframe recently, so I'm just selling all crop-1.6 stuff. A nice and relatively well priced lens for the 5D is the Tamron 28-75/2.8, which is in the same pricerange as your 18.50/2.8 Sigma.</p>

 

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<p>Dina, with very few exceptions, Canon EF lenses are optically better than EF-mount third party lenses. If I want a particular EF lens that I can't quite afford new, I pick up a used copy. You might wnat to consider doing likewise.</p>

<p>I would concur with those who have recommended the 85/1.8 or the 100/2. I have the latter, and it's very good. Apparently, these two lenses have very similar characteristics. The 135/2 L is apparently stellar (some claim that it's the best prime Canon makes), and not too long for portraiture on a full frame body.</p>

<p>My favourite portrait lens is the FD 85/1.2 L, but I'm afraid that I won't be shelling out almost two grand for its EF equivalent anytime soon!</p>

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<p>Dina, given what you have on hand, as others mentioned, the 85 or 100 are both good choices... and I can highly recommend the 135L... I have it, use it, love it, and am not sure how I'd get along without it. It plus my 24-70L are my two absolute favorites. Depth of field with the 135 can be beautifully played with... down to a hair-thin slice if you shoot wide open.</p>
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<p>The traditional "portrait" lens for 35mm was between 75-105mm. The 85mm lenses recommended are wonderful for this application on the 24x36mm sensor cameras like yours.</p>

<p>However, you don't always want crispness and high contrast in a portrait. That's one reason Canon made a 135mm f/2.8 lens with soft-focus capabilities. It's a little long for portraiture, but the soft-focus feature can smooth a lot of wrinkles.</p>

<p>Other "soft-focus" lenses exist. It should be understood that soft focus is not just out-of-focus, however (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft_focus">link</a> ), so the effect is not precisely duplicated by blurring in post-processing.</p>

<p>In any case, there was an interesting soft-focus portrait lens imported by Spiratone some years ago, and it sells for much cheaper than an EF 85mm. It was called the "Portragon" (100mm f/4). It will work with a T-adapter on any EOS camera. Another soft focus lens is something called the Sima Soft Focus lens, but it is somewhat less useful than the Portragon in my opinion, although with various "<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterhouse_stop">waterhouse stops</a> " it provides a range of different effects.<br /> Finally, a bargain solution for a great portrait lens, though not a soft-focus one, is the Nikkor-P 105mm f/2.5 lens. Considered by many to be one of the finest lenses ever made by Nikon, it works just fine in manual mode with an adapter on EOS cameras. If you look for non-AI lenses, you can often pick this up very inexpensively.<br /> I expect that your wisest choice is to get one of the 85mm EF lenses, but these alternatives may be something you want to consider having in your personal kit for different kinds of portraiture.</p>

<p>Manual focus is also not such a problem in portraiture, since you will often want to manual focus any lens to make sure the critical parts of the portrait (e.g., the eyes) are as sharp as you can get them. No AF can second guess this kind of focus.</p><div>00SXYq-111105584.thumb.jpg.ed16ab14ca7d7c35bbf5440097debe7a.jpg</div>

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<p>Well, one way to make this decsion is to review the photos of high end photographers like Todd Laffler and Jeff ascough, and see what lenses they are using, and then use that as a guide. They each have images and interviwes here on photo net. Cost factor aside, the L lenses are superior, thats the way it is.<br>

So, for portraits, its pretty much 85 1.8; 85 1.2; or 135. The 85 1.2 is pretty much the defacto lens here, but its slow as a snail to focus, and costs a fortune. But it is the best. It just produces images that are different than the 1.8. Go to flickr, search the groups for the 85 1.2, and 85 1.8; you'll get a feel for the differences in images. Take a look on phot net for Todd Lafflers 85 1.2 images, they will also show you whats possible. The trade off is always $$$$.</p>

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<p>With full frame 5D one of the best and often overlooked portrait lenses is the 100mm 2.0. Depending on the application the 85mm, 100mm or the 135mm L 2.0 are all in the ball park. I've even seen some great portraits of shy subjects with the 200mm 2.8. Obviously the 70-200mm 2.8 covers the whole gamut. You certainly can't go wrong with the very fine 100mm 2.0. Good luck!</p>
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<p>The EF 135 2.8 SF is an excellent portrait lens on FF and one of Canon's bargains at $225 or so new. Without the dial-in soft focus enabled, it's tack sharp. Twist the dial to add soft focus effects. Although it uses an AFD motor, AF is very fast due to the internal focus design. Finally this lens is petite and easy to keep in your bag. Needs only 52mm filters!</p>

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<p>I'm on the market for a EF 85 f1.8 for my 5D portraits too. In the meantime I'm using manual focus tamron 90 and 90 elmarit for this purpose and I like the results. Tele-zooms like the 80-200 or 28-200 can do it too.</p>
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