Portable Storage Devices

Discussion in 'Canon EOS' started by mary_beth_aiello, Feb 3, 2008.

  1. You've reviewed portable storage devices in the past (I think most recently in
    early 2006), and wanted to get an updated recommendation to what's on the
    market. I'm planning two 2-week trips this year and need something to store
    photos from memory cards. Can you recommend? I've heard the Epson 3000 is
    excellent and now has a $150 rebate.

    I must admit, though, I really don't know much about storage devices and need
    your advice. Many thanks.
     
  2. You can read Peter Thompson's "big thumbs up" review near the end here: http://tinyurl.com/yt7mpn
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  3. Buy more cards and a portable computer. Do not erase anything until you are home and everyhing is in two places. Maybe burn some DVD on the way.

    A computer has far more utility for not much more money. It need not be a $2000 20" screen portable. I got a $1100 Macbook with 13" screen and put my second copy of CS3 on it. BTW, CS3 runs fine on it.

    If you are a windows guy, a $500 Dell will be fine. Guarantee nothing about Vista and Photoshop.
     
  4. I'd get a Hyperdrive Space or Colorspace, based on my experience with their earlier model: http://hyperdrive.com/
     
  5. I bought a OTG hard drive enclosure and laptop hard drive and made my own. Total cost, $50 for 60GB of storage. Camera plugs into the drive directly (this is the "OTG" or On-The-Go protocol) and sucks the pictures off the flash card. Works great.
     
  6. I'd buy as many memory cards as you need. And then some.

    You can get the Epson 3000 for $410 - 150 rebate = $260 for 40 gig. $6.50 per gig.

    You can buy 8g Sandisk cards for $100. Buy three, and get $160 rebate. $140 for 24 gig = $5.80 per gig.

    Even if the memory cards were slightly more expensive, I'd still go with the cards because of the added hassle of carrying something extra that also needs its own cables and batteries.


    Eric
     
  7. Hyperdrive Space - very fast and reliable with bit-for-bit verify.

    If you want image playback (histogram etc.), buy a Hyperdrive Colorspace.
     
  8. If it's a two-week trip, I would definitely bring a laptop. That way, I can check the shots at the hotel, in detail, and make sure I got what I wanted. If not, it's not a big deal to go back and reshoot. But, if you put them on a storage device and then bring them home only to find you didn't get the shot, you'll be sorely disappointed. True, some of them have LCDs, but they are small, and inflexible.
     
  9. Creative makes a media player with a CF slot. Also Canon is coming out with a storage unit
    M80 and M30. 30 and 80 gigs.


    http://www.dpreview.com/news/0609/06093002canonm30m80.asp
     
  10. Uh, the Canon announcement is from September 2006. Did they change their mind?
     
  11. There is no need to buy several memory cards or carry heavy laptops. I took 2500 raw photos on my one week trip to disney and stored all of them on a portable drive from Digital Foci. You can get them from B&H and if you don't need to view your photos on the storage device they are as little as $119 for a 40 gig. I had no problems with mine and use it to back up photos whenever I run out of memory card space.
     
  12. Matt,

    No, but I think they're difficult to find in the US and more easily found in Europe.
     
  13. Gotta say the small laptop is the way to go.

    I travel this way, and it works well. In the past, I have ALWAYS insured the images were in two places: Hard Drive and CD's. Later, Hard Drive and DVD's. Next trip: Hard Drive and external hard drive.
     
  14. http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00LxjX

    I wrote my thoughts on one I brought, I think originally a Vivitar, that I got for peanuts. Its
    great for working on the go. I just pop a card in once I have finished shooting and carry on
    shooting to the next card.

    However for a multi night trip away I would strongly lean towards a laptop such as the new
    little macbooks. An alternative is the Asus eeepc with an external harddrive, but I feel that
    this is emerging technology and you may as well wait for one with a bigger internal flash
    hard drive and cheap price that can run some useful programs.

    As for the Epsom and Canon storage devices, I cant help feeling that this is a good chunk
    of cash towards a small laptop that has so many other benefits.
    So unless you can get one cheap, head for the macbook route as it will give you email
    skype and editing facilities. You could even string together a slide show in imovie, post it
    to facebook and have your images criticised by friends and family before you get home.

    My former business partner (photography) swore by the burn to DVD direct devices

    Cheers G
     
  15. I have an Epson P3000 and love it. It has a very good 4" screen to review my shots. I also got an adapter for other cards (the P3000 has CF and SD slots) so companions on the trip could review their shots too. It was such a hit that others said they would get one upon their return home.

    I do not erase my cards so that I have backup copies of everything I shot.

    Jim
     
  16. I forgot to mention that I've carried a laptop on other trips and it is NOT worth the hassel of lugging it around and trying to find room and energy to use it in route. I have tried a couple of cheaper brands and found them wanting. In my research of the subject I would only recommend Epson or Jobo.

    Jim
     
  17. I too have the Epson, and have to echo the sentiment that if you are on trip with others who you are likely to want to share a view of your shots with, the Epson is wonderful.

    This past summer my family was on a cruise with 13 other family members, the idea of passing my laptop around on the lido deck seemed just a tad bit risky :) I do wish the canon was available so that the battery issue was eliminated, but in the end carrying the small adapter was not an issue.

    Good luck.
     
  18. I have the Hyperdrive HD80.

    It's very slow - 5 hours to transfer a full load via USB from a 40GB drive. It does have a problem with corrupting images. I plugged my CF card in and transferred my images. Then I found some corrupted images that could not be used on the Hyperdrive. Fortunately I had not formatted my card so I was able to recover the corrupted images. Since that day I have not used the hyperdrive as I regard it as too risky. It's OK for holiday photos but for work - forget it!

    I like the idea of the Asus EEEPC very much. I love the solid-state hard drive. That seems ideal for laptops which get slung around a good bit. At the moment according to NewEgg (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&SubCategory=636&N=2013240636) the prices of SSHDs are a bit on the high side. I'd happily put a 32GB in my current laptop or a 64GB even. The problem is that they're very expensive at $700 and $1000 respectively. When that price falls as it surely will by next January they might be worth buying.

    Regarding the Asus EEEPC I gather somebody else is doing something similar for a similar price. That might be worth looking at too. As far as the Asus is concerned, as long as you replaced the hard drive with something bigger or used one of the external hard drives with it, it might be quite useful. I am toying with the idea of buying one but I have a feeling that I probably won't.
     
  19. Two years ago I bought a PD70X 40 gig for $169-179 if I remeber correctly. That's just about what the 40 gig hyperdrive is going for no. The 80 gig is $250. From the spec sheets and photos that I've looked at it looks like the exact same device. The case, lcd display controls, size everything.

    I've been very pleased with my device. It's small and fast. Me and partner both use 1 gig cards and it really does download them in less than 2 minutes.

    The last trip I didn't bother bring ang chargers/converters. She did and never used them. Charged up the PD70X and two batteries for the 20D my partner charged up two batteries for her Rebel XT and we were all set. Granted it was only one week but there were two shooters and we didn't come close to the capacity of the PD70X.

    The PD70x uses laptop drives so I susspect that the hyperdrive does as well. So, you can always take a second drive and pop it in. Getting used 40 gig laptop drives should be cheap and easy. The litho batteries are also very affordable now so, you could bring a spare set or the charger if you are planning on 80 gig or more. Also, since it uses standard AA batteries in an emergency you can use OTC batteries.
     
  20. the PD70X and the Hyperdrive HD80 are the exact same thing. They use standard PATA laptop drives (so far, no PSDs use the newer SATA hard drives which are starting to be more plentiful in very large sizes and will eventually completely replace PATA). The HD80 runs very poorly on alkaline batteries - can drain them flat on 4GB of transfer. NiMH rechargeables can source more current and last much, much longer. If you buy an HD80 to be able to use alkaline AAs, be aware that it's an uphill battle.

    The newer Space/Colorspace use an internal rechargeable cell which can be charged from AAs at a slower rate that the AAs can better support. That's probably a better solution.
     
  21. sorry, I realize I should be more clear. When running the HD80 on alkalines, the drive motor draws more current than the batteries can comfortably supply for long. Very quickly (about 2-4 gb in my experience, with fresh brand new Duracells) this will cause the battery voltage to drop below the threshold needed to keep the HD80 on and the whole thing will shut down. the alkalines will be extremely hot when you take them out. They may well have a great deal of power left for other lower-current devices.

    Alkaline cells may well have more total energy content (something like 2900 mAh) than NiMH rechargeables (2000-2700 mAh) but NiMHs can supply the current needed by the HD80 without a voltage drop. So the device will last much longer on them - 8gb has never been a problem for me and I'm sure 32gb isn't either.
     
  22. Rhys: If you're taking 5 hours to transfer 40GB, that can only mean one thing: you are using USB 1.1. I transfer the same quantity as fast as my HD can take it (minutes, not hours).

    My old HD80 came with 2000mAh NiMH (?) batteries included.
     
  23. It's very strange because my laptop is USB 2.0 and the HD80 is supposed to be USB 2.0 also. It's just very slow.
     
  24. Just because a device supports a particular standard, doesn't mean it's using it efficiently. Transferring images using a Canon EOS body, for instance, is almost universally slower than taking the card out and using a card reader -- even if both use the same bus, such as USB 2.0.
     
  25. That's pretty much what I figured about the HD80. It was not one of my smarter purchases. I get more use out of my external hard drive. In fact, I could still use the HD80 as an external hard drive for an Asus EEEPC. I'm not quite sure that I want to blow the money on an Asus EEEPC though. I think they're a bit bulky still and when the price of SSDHs come down, the Macbook Air will simply blow the EEEPC out of the water.
     
  26. True, but it's heavier (weighs 50% more), and more expensive (500% more for entry model). The Air isn't for those that value price and portability above all else (including style). And don't get me started about not being able to swap the internal battery without taking apart the case. It certainly looks better than anything else out there, but it's clear that style was the primary goal of the Air.
     
  27. I'd love to have an EEEPC to play with. It'd be very useful on long flights and in cramped hotel rooms. The trouble is though - I don't do enough flying or stay in enough cheap hotels to make it worthwhile.

    The Macbook Air, I could use. I have a wifi network wherever I go. The lack of a media writer I don't see as a downside as it's always going to be better to be able to use a networked media writer on the basis that media changes very rapidly. Over the past 20 years I have used the set standard which was 120K 5.25" floppy drives until 1988 then 3.5" 720K until 1989 then 1.44m floppy until 2001 then CD from 1998 - 2005 then DVD from 2001 - 2008. HDDVD and Blu-Ray are trying for the next crown. If I buy a Macbook Air, I know it'll work with whatever media exists in 2009 because it doesn't have built-in media.

    I like the fact the Air weighs 3Lbs. It's obviously designed to make use of the emerging technology of SSHDs. I bet that when SSHDs drop in price, they'll be in the Air faster than you can blink and the high-end $3700 Air will simply vanish.

    For me, the Asus doesn't have a high-enough resolution screen and has a SSHD that's about 5% of what I really want. Once those two things are sorted out and the keyboard perhaps maximised then it might be good.

    For simply using it as a transfer/viewing platform with a bit of email then it looks quite decent. If that were partnered with something like an HD80 or a portable hard drive then I can see a future for it.
     
  28. it

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    I'm using a Hyperdrive and it's been great. Built tough and fast transfer rates.
     
  29. Rhys, do your other USB 2.0 devices work faster? The time you quoted corresponds directly to USB 1.1 speeds, so something must be falling back.
     
  30. it

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    Yeah, something is wrong. My Hyperdrive transfers a 13MP file in 1 sec.
     
  31. Rhys,

    All laptops can make use of solid state hard drives. They use the same connector and bus, and are in the same form factor. I also agree that as they come down in price, they will be much more prevalent. I don't have a problem with the MacBook Air not having a built-in media drive. I don't use removable media, either. It's quite simply that despite all the hype that the Air is meant for a wireless world, you absolutely must plug it in when the battery has given all of it's charge. There is no option to buy a handful of batteries and truly remain wireless. It's like the electric cars that only have a range of 150 miles. What good is that? In that respect, it's a toy, more than a truly portable machine. For a more apples-to-apples comparison (no pun intended, and not including the OS, of course), compare it to the Panasonic R4. True, it doesn't have as large a display, but the resolution is mostly there (only 256x32 pixels shy). True, it doesn't come standard with 2 GB RAM, but you can upgrade it to 1.5 GB. The processor is also a bit slower (by 300 Mhz). However, for those sacrifices, you get a laptop that has 8.5 hours of battery life (with a removable battery) that weighs only 2.2 lbs (1.01 kg). It most definitely doesn't have the style of the Air, and it's not as thin. But, it manages to shave nearly a pound off, provides more battery life, and is 2.8 inches less wide, and 1.5 inches less deep. Oh, and one more thing... you can carry extra batteries with you, so you can truly remain wireless.
     
  32. That R4 looks neat. My laptop is a big thing - a Presario v2570NR. Having said that I'm planning on getting an Apple Macbook. I did wonder about the Air but I'd like to see how that performs in use first. I am also waiting for SSHDs to drop in price. The low power consumption, fast access and virtual indestructability of SSHDs interests me greatly.

    I keep toying with the idea of getting an ultra-small portable computer but am wary of new products for obvious reasons. I have a PDA and find that now the software is very hard to find for it since it was made 4 years ago. It still works but crashes so often that there's no point in trusting it with data so I use it solely as a games machine.
     
  33. It uses a slower version of the Intel processor - that's why they could repackage it. However, it's also very cool, from what I've read. The R4 has been out for a couple of years, so it's not that new. ;-) The Air is very thin, but still covers a large area. You might want to read this Ars Technica review.
     
  34. I have (2) Hyperdrive/PD70X that are 3 years old and are still going strong. An 8GB CF card takes under 10 mins to transfer and I have never once experienced a data transfer error.
     

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