rick_shanahan Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I always thought I would love to use one, but now that I have one, I find it cumbersome, heavy, and unwieldy. DoI really need this thing? Please reply if you do or do not use one, and also why...Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_garcia10 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 No. Same reason as you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picturesque Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I use one when it makes sense and not when it doesn't. I have many and I've made my own from various parts. Sorry to screw up your poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam_ellis Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Like Nadine, I use when when I need to. If I'm indoors and can bounce the flash, I don't use one. If I'm outside, I might use one to give the flash a little separation. However, the one I have isn't adjustable and doesn't give more than an inch difference with a camera grip attached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_autio Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Directly, it keeps subjects' eyes from turning red or purple. I use it for weddings, directly or bouncing off walls for soft lighting. It helps me see people better than having the flash camera mounted. With zoom tuning, it creates a vignette. But I generally don't use them. Weight doesn't bother me. Check out some of those people wielding hi-end video stuff! So, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgk1966 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 hate it, hate it, hate it, but have to use it sometimes if I don't want the side shadows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catchlight Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I use one whenever I use flash. If you are concerned about weight and bulk, take a look at the RRS wedding pro bracket . It's the lightest, most versatile, and stowable bracket I've seen. http://reallyrightstuff.com/flash/04.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawn_kelly Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 You don't mention which bracket you use. They really do come in all size and weights. Look at the Stroboframe VH 2000 Stroboflip Flash Rotator. This is THE lightest bracket made. Will barely add any weight at all and easy to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fstop11664880086 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I use it when I need flash. I have the camera flip model. Love the fact that the flash stays in one place. It's heavy at first but you get used to it. I used to haul a broadcast camera around for local TV. It's not that heavy. Nice handle to hld while your waiting. Second camera has prime. It hangs off right shoulder. Would not shoot events with out it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkphotog Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I have one and use it. I was introduced to the wonders of the Stroboframe by a former boyfriend who was an art photographer. It's particularly handy if you hang an external battery from one of the tripod mounts. For what its worth, people seem to pay more attention to you when your camera looks bigger. To many non-photogs, even an EOS 400D looks "professional," on a bracket with an external flash. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david myles photography Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I don't use one but should in some instances. When doing those vertical shots you have to figure out a way to minimize the hard shadows and uneven light you can get. I usually try to bounce the flash behind, to the side or use the creative lighting that the un-natural flash position creates as part of the image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_c.5 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I've never owned one, and never will. I use the Gary Fong Lightsphere pretty religiously, but occasionally will just bounce off walls or ceilings. With the Lightsphere, you don't need a bracket because of the way it works. I use it sometimes on the flash mounted ON the camera, but often holding the camera off to the side with a sync cord (my flash does wireless, but it's IR, so not as consistent in firing that way). Whether the flash is on the camera shoe or handheld, you really don't need the bulk of a bracket, and can hold it high enough to control shadows. Plus, if you watch what you're doing and don't shoot people against walls, you won't have shadows to worry about anyway. I turn them down a hallway or into the room to shoot them, so shadows disappear. In my experience and opinion, brackets are passe. They do serve a purpose, but there are many tools and techniques that eliminate the need for one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffrey_blake_adams Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 of course, you get used to the weight, it dimished harsh shadows, and eliminates red eye. J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francie_baltazar Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Well - I guess I am going against the grain - I love my bracket - I love carring my camera on it (I don't use a camera strap) and I love that it flips - I like the stablity that I get using a bracket and think I get sharper shots because it helps me steady myself... II use the same bracket as Dawn above I attache my flash and I am set to go for the entire wedding - if I need the flash I use it - if not... I turn it off... I don't have to worry about shadows or red eye... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savagesax Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 I use one, but I sort of have to, because I'm using Quantum flash units. Once you get the feel of using a bracket my feeling is the photos look a bit better. If I were to use a Canon flash or a Nikon flash it's harder to bounce vertical shots resulting with a chance of red eye and harsh shadows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografz Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 Like Nadine, I use one when it makes sense. For awhile I stopped using one and used various Fong solutions, but I don't like that for everything ... in fact I'm liking it less and less. My main use for a flip bracket now is with a wireless Nikon Commander unit and a SB900 ... PLUS a Hensel Strobe Wizard radio transmitter to remotely control monoheads. The Hensel radio system allows you to increase or decrease power to each head independently at the camera. So I needed a place to mount the transmitter, and re-engineered a Stroboframe flip bracket to do that job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimstrutz Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 I almost always use a camera flip flash bracket at weddings. It keeps the flash above the lens, and the shadows directly behind and below the subject where God intended them to be. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pankaj purohit Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 No, I never want to use flash and never like the flashed photos, even a very few times when the shot is important and when I have to capture handheld wiothout much light then the pop-up flash is fine for me, I sill not bought any additional flash. Studio light setup is different thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twertman Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 No. I looked at several but never felt comfortable with any of them. A 580 EX with a Gary Fong Light Sphere attached works well for me and gives me the feel and control of the camera I want. Switching from horizontal to vertical with the light sphere on is a simple movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_schilling___chicago_ Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 I almost always use my camera flip model and it allows me to position the omnibounce at the correct angle/position for bounce and fill. My second camera doesn't go on a bracket and it's used when I want a different lens, or for available light, or with the omnibounce taking horizontal shots. It's also true that Uncle Bob rarely shows up at a wedding with his camera mounted to a bracket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabbiinc Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 I always use a flash bracket. Its not a flip model, I hated using that one, its just a simple cheap video light bracket. I still bounce when I want since its not a flip bracket your not fighting the flipping thing to angle the head on the flash. Its all personal prefrence I guess Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkka_nissila Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 Pankaj, you can create somewhat studio-like lighting on location with 2-3 remote flashes. When I use on-camera flash, it's always with a bracket. The bracket improves vertical shots by repositioning the shadow to where it is not as obstructive. When I have the possibility, I position three flashes and use an SU-800 on the camera to fire the flashes. This is because I am used to available light which doesn't change when I move the camera; using remote flashes with no on-camera flash is easier for me to understand the results from shot to shot. Unfortunately as the action changes place, I don't always have time to move the lights. I'm working on it ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Ingold Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 I do not use a flash bracket. I have several, and all are bulky and complete with dangling cables - like a Red Skelton skit. I get excellent results using a diffusion cap (e.g., Sto-Fens) on a shoe flash for candids, and monolights on stands for formal group photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_best2 Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 Yes, always. Back in the days when I used 35mm, I would often remove the flash from the bracket to get better depth and a different feel, less like a flash shot. But now that I shoot with a 6x7, just the weight and cumbersomeness(?) of the camera/flash combination make such manipulation impractical. I am diligently studying ways to use my auto strobonar more effectively, bounce flash, diffusion, etc. Mike Best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_c.5 Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 If you use a Lightsphere, bounce card, or bounce the flash, you won't have redeye to worry about. Any time you point a flash directly at a subject, redeye is a possibility. Deja vu, this has been discussed so many times here before... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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