Guest Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Yes, I know the British magazine <I>Amateur Photographer</i> gets insomething about Leicas just about every week. But this week has afeature on former Police guitarist <ahref="http://andysummers.com/">Andy Summers</a> and his collection<I>City of Light</I>: he shoots Delta 3200 and Leica M on the streetsof NY.<P>Some nice work. Didn't have time to stand in the queue, socan't say much more about the magazine, just a heads-up for anyoneinterested.<P>An exhibition runs in <ahref="http://www.beauxartslondon.co.uk/AS-pic-index.html">CorkStreet</a> till 7 May. He also did <I>Light Work</i> with Ralph Gibson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtodrick Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Actually it's 'Light Strings' with Ralph Gibson. Excellent book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william_todd_faulk Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Not surprisingly there's nothing that I found that is either interesting or anything that would warrant any form of excitement. After viewing his work it seems as if it would fit in well here. Photographs of people's backs, lack of shadow detail, people bending over, rather amateurish work in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preston_merchant Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 We keep waiting to see some of the fruits of your photographic genius, William. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spearhead Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Critic and photographer are two different things. Many good photographers are terrible critics, many good critics are terrible photographers. Asking people to show their work before they criticize someone else is childish and pointless. On the other hand, when people talk about technique, how good some piece of equipment is, these are times when it would be good to see someone's images. In this case, one has no reference. But that's completely different. Comment on, William. Music and Portraits Blog: Life in Portugal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus_ritchie1 Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 I've just looked at Andy's site. I'd be proud to have taken any of those photographs. William, if none of his stuff gives you any form of excitement or interest then I suggest you take up quilt making, I think you may have more of an eye for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtodrick Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Gee, William, jealousy just doesn't become you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_kaplan1 Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 I tend to put more stock in what a critic says if he comes with some credentials, like perhaps some documented background with a publication or two, maybe a degree in an allied field, a teaching position, certainly a bit more than just showing up at the Leica Forum cold less than a month ago, overflowing with negativity. Andy seems like he can hold his own as a photographer, no apologies to anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william_todd_faulk Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 <I> We keep waiting to see some of the fruits of your photographic genius, William.</I> <p> Preston, unquestionably in a similar manner as I await to behold yours. <p> In regards to the photographs in question Preston, may I be so bold as too ask what redeeming or intriguing qualities you found in the images are or is this just a personal attack? <p> Jealousy? Bob surely you jest. I would also like to pose a similar query to you if I may. Which one of your emotions is most effected by said images or what do you find the most appealing? The flat lighting? The lack of regard to composition? Maybe it's the dizzying power of celebrity worship? <p> Jealos? Hardly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_kaplan1 Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Just keep digging yourself deeper, Mr. Faulk. Sometimes it's a sign of maturity to demonstrate that you know when to stop defending your position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_lee2 Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 I like his stuff, I think he shows a really nice eye. Didn't know he was a photographer, so thanks for the heads up. He's also a much cooler musician-photographer than Bryan Adams, no question ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephan_hugel Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 William, Do we get to have a field day with your appalling grammar and incorrect spelling, or is this thread now reserved for unqualified 'criticism' of other people's photographs only? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffrey_milarsky Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 I actually was working with Andy recently, as he was playing in a new composition premiered at Carnegie Hall with the American Composers Orchestra. We spoke about his pasion for photography and his love of Leicas. He seemed very knowledgeable and passionate. Totally approachable guys, a real sweetheart. He was experimenting with his new Canon 10D, as his next trip was to Africa, and he was a little tired of dealing with all the film. As I watched him struggle with the Canon, he stated "Maybe I will take my Leicas after all"! best, Jeffrey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_spiers Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 "He was experimenting with his new Canon 10D, as his next trip was to Africa, and he was a little tired of dealing with all the film. As I watched him struggle with the Canon, he stated "Maybe I will take my Leicas after all"!" In the article, he doesn't sound like a fan of digital at all. And I really like his photos. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayh Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 William Todd Faulk. Hmmm.... WTF .... what the f***? Karmic coincidence or a secret sign of the Illuminati? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 <I>Not surprisingly</i><P>William, why were you not surprised?<P>Because you don't think someone who was in a popular beat combo can do photography? Because he's in <I>AP</i>? Or Cork Street? Or because he uses a Leica M? Or because I posted it, and posted it on this forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_kaplan1 Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Billy boy, where'd you dissapear to? We're still waiting to see your credentials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtodrick Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Todd...first, get your monitor adjusted. On mine (a fairly pricey affair actually), the images for the most part display fine contrast. As for the subject matter, some of the street scenes are as good as anything out there...and dare I say far, far better than anything I've seen come from yourself. Oh...and thirdly, it appears at least the man can spell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 DANG! I really hate it when celebrities turn out to do good photographic work. It just dosn't seem fair, somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preston_merchant Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 William, you are welcome to browse my site. Critic and practitioner may be different things, but if you are going to impugn all the posters on this forum, you might as well come out into the open, instead of kicking back in your pundit's chair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerald_widen Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Some pretty nice stuff there. Would he get an exhibition if he was a nobody is another question. Still a lot better an most of the photos posted here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preston_merchant Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 "Asking people to show their work before they criticize someone else is childish and pointless." True, Jeff. But what was offered wasn't "criticism" in any meaningful way. Why are you calling me childish and pointless? I just asked the guy to pony up before he goes off on a tear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travis1 Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 I love the Police! Is Sting a shooter too? nice stuff btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william_todd_faulk Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Gentlemen, <p> It appears as if there has been a misunderstanding, whether the fault lies with my communication or your own lack of comprehension or mental capacity is irrelevant. Though nowhere in this thread or any other have I established myself as a 'shooter' as you all happen to be. Nevertheless I do make use of and have an interest in Leica equipment though my main interest in photography is that of a collector. <p> Ian, the reason I was not surprised was that I notice that a very insignificant amount of celebrity 'shooters' are proficient at producing work of interest and that my beliefs are contrary to others here that seem to be enamoured every time a celebrity is seen with a Leica. <p> I find Andy Summers work no more interesting or engaging then that of Bryan Adams, Linda McCartney, Leonard Nimoy, Jeff Bridges, on and on. In fact the only celebrity whose work I find myself intrigued by is that of Dennis Hopper. So persecute me for not enjoying his work or gaining an equivalent amount of satisfaction as you. As an aside my comment had nothing to do with you or this forum. <p> Bob, if one can judge a man by occasional spelling errors then certainly one can judge another by the cliched stereo typical nudes that one produces in his home studio. Also as mentioned earlier I am not masquerading under the guise of a shooter as some salesmen here are. Additionally I can assure you that my Cintiq 21UX is more than adequately calibrated. <p> Preston, I did browse your site prior to stating my last comment, thank you. <p> Gerald, I have to disagree. I find selected works in this forum and in the Street and Documentary Forum far more interesting than what Andy Summers is doing, some of your own included. <p> One thing I did find most intriguing is the amount of comments aimed at myself for not appreciating his work as opposed to comments actually concerning Andy Summers work. <p> Respectfully,<br> Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugene_scherba Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Sting's too busy saving the world and all... Liked the shots, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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