peter_gilbert4 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 <p>I just came across a press release stating that Plustek plans to unveil a new 120 (MF, and 35mm) film (and slide) scanner next week at the CES show in Las Vegas. No specs other than "professional grade". Looking forward to learning more about this!<br> http://www.geardiary.com/2012/01/04/plustek-to-unveil-new-line-of-scanners-at-ces/<br> Peter</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisnielsen Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 That would be awesome about now for me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_gilbert4 Posted January 5, 2012 Author Share Posted January 5, 2012 <p>Now, if it only had a little red metal flag on the side it would be perfect :) (Looks like a mail box, yes?)</p> <p>Peter</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjoseph7 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 <p>I hope they do something about that dynamic range, they seem to be stuck at 3.5 and refuse to move.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf_weber Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 <p>Nothing wrong with a new and (hopefully) better mousetrap... From the (albeit somewhat sleeker) looks of the box one might deduct a connection to the PrimeFilm 120. The 2 buttons top right being the <em>give-away</em>. Everything of course depends now on what's inside, on the specs. Most likely will come with the latest version of SilverFast. Not a bad thing at all.<br> As to Dmax, Harry, I would like to throw my 2 cts. into the ring... Before my current Nikon 9000, I had a 4000, then a 5000... Before those I worked with a Polaroid 4000 which, on paper, was inferior to the Nikons and various others. Just these days I re-scanned a neg with the 9000, a 30 min' job with all the bells & whistles. Well, wouldn't you know..?<br> With the Polaroid (Microtek) it used to take less than 10... The <em>rest</em> meant about an hour's tweaking in the Shop. End results are very hard to distinguish from each other. Certainly, while the 9000 goes through its motion, I can do something else. While post-processing of scans from older models meant (means) time and, not to forget, <em>know-how</em>. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabbiinc Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 <p>It is not a relabeled *other* brand scanner. If it were it would be selling already.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_druziak Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 <p>Hi Mark from Plustek here. I am the marketing and business development guy in the US region.<br> The Reflecta scanner is manufactured by Pacific Image. Anything with a Plustek brand on it is designed and manufactured by Plustek.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_gilbert4 Posted January 6, 2012 Author Share Posted January 6, 2012 <p>@Mark: Any specifications you are able to divulge at this time?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_druziak Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 <p>Peter, unfortunately I can't. We haven't formally announced the product and until we do and specs are subject to change. So I don't want to set any expectations that may not be met with the final product.<br> I will say that we received a lot of suggestions from potential customers and many of these suggestions were incorporated in the final product. So we are listening!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_ Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 <p> there's definitely a market (Imo) for a good *affordable* dedicated 35mm/120 film scanner.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabbiinc Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 richard, there always has been a market for *affordable* scanners. What's your idea of affordable though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfcole Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 <p>It's reasonable to assume that the Plustek will be marketed to compete with the PrimeFilm 120, which has gotten mixed reviews. I'd be surprised if the Plustek was priced much lower or higher than the PrimeFilm at around $1750.<br> Here's the problem with these scanners: at this price point, they'd have to show a clear difference from the Epsons. I currently have an Epson V500 and a Nikon 8000. I scan both using betterscanning glass, so I think I'm getting the max out of both. The bottom line is, at sizes about 16x16, the differences can be difficult to see. There is a small difference at these sizes, but in prints it is not proportional to the price difference of $200 vs $1500. At least the Nikons have a professional build quality.<br> So if neither of these units can equal the Nikons but is priced so much higher than an Epson, is it really worth it? The Epsons are fast, and easy to batch-scan.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicaglow Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 <p>I would love to have a good 120 scanner. Nikon stopped making the 9000 just before I could buy one, and after that, I didn't want to be an antiquated product (I have plenty of those scanners). With good DMax and software, it ought to be a hit. Now about 4x5?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Kahn Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 <p>Mark, are you talking to Lasersoft about Silverfast software support for this scanner?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boris_krivoruk3 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 <p>I recently dumped my Nikon 9000ED because this "professional build quality" kept breaking after few hundred scans and it cost me over $500 to fix it. The scanners don't make sense anymore. I have been take photos of the negatives and slides with macro lens using digital camera. Quality is very close to 9000ED. Grain is clearly visible. For 120 format I took 6 photos of the negative and stitched them into one image, giving me 475 mb tiff. When I print these images - I can't distinguish quality with the quality of scans. I do use glass carrier to do this. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregory_logiodice1 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 <p>So presumably this scanner is now on display at CES? Has anyone seen it and can provide additional information? </p> <p>Mark.. any idea when Plustek will be coming forward with specs, price, and availability? </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_druziak Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 <p>I'm not at CES. This show is usually staffed by personel from our main office. I'm not sure, but from what I understand, the scanner wasn't in the box with all of the other scanners. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_gilbert4 Posted January 12, 2012 Author Share Posted January 12, 2012 <p>@Mark: Meaning it will NOT be announced this week?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf_weber Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 <p>Been there, seen that... Make an announcement to confuse potential buyers of a competitor's product. It took me a good 6 months waiting for the much touted Canon EF 200-400mm Zoom lens before I finally bought something else. Not to say that this scanner will never happen. <em>Drumit up, drumit up..!</em> True, they <em>"haven't formally announced the product"</em>, but an image of it has somehow (..?) found its way into the media.<br /> Now to Mark Druziak (who must feel pretty embarassed at this point); ...<em>"Anything with a Plustek brand on it is designed and manufactured by Plustek."</em>... That may be so. Doesn't change the fact that the 2 buttons are located at the same place top right of the proposed new model, just like on the box of the Pacific PrimeFilm 120 and/or the Reflecta MF5000, going by the images of all three... Photographers have <strong><em>the eye</em></strong>.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_druziak Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 <p>@WolfWeber I understand your frustration. I should have more info after our weekly meeting with the factory next Tuesday. <br> There is no reason to attempt to confuse competitors. The market for this type of scanner is pretty small and trust me, confusion is not part of our sales strategy.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ingemar_lampa1 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 <p>I don't know if I would go for one if it became available. Here is why: After having gone down the hybrid route and not getting that little final "punch" from the scanned negs, I recently set up a wet darkroom again. It cost me US$75 for everything except the sink (no joke! sink was not included:) which I need for doing 6x6 and 35mm work. Without putting traditional printing before hybrid processing or extolling the virtues of either method, let me just mention one aspect - time - there is no big difference if you use one or the other. Like Wolf mentions above, one scan which you want to be spot-on will take roughly the same time as a traditional print, all accounted for (except perhaps washing and drying) with analysis, tests, dodges and burns etc.</p> <p>Had there been an affordable, good, scanner available say in 2010, I would probably have bought it. But after I found my way back in to the darkroom, I really don't know. Besides, I'm having more fun that sitting in front of a computer monitor - which I do all day at work at any rate. But that is me. Mileage may vary.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predrag_vranic Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 <p><em>one scan which you want to be spot-on will take roughly the same time as a traditional print, all accounted for (except perhaps washing and drying) with analysis, tests, dodges and burns etc.</em></p> <p>One perfect scan can be printed as many times as you'd want, that's the difference that bought me.<em><br /></em></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ingemar_lampa1 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 <p>Predrag, I do use my flatbed, but I scan (or copy - as many as I want in no time) the print instead of the negative. Print scanners (flatbeds) are 14 a dozen. And cheap. Negative scanners are not. And I prefer that workflow to scanning the negs because if I do need to make a million copies, I just feed the print I like in to the machine at hand and press one button.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predrag_vranic Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 <p>Okay.. I avoid scanning printed stuff because there's certain factor of IQ degradation. and I never print smaller than 30x30cm.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_himmelright Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 <p>Saw one at B&H yesterday. $1799</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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