connie_simon Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 Can someone help me out with this question since I will be in a delivery room taking pictures some time this next week. We have a Canon EOS Digital Rebel 300 body and have been trying to take pictures in low light to prepare. They are coming out blurry since the shutter speed is very slow and they are yellow. I have set the camera on the Program setting and taken the ISO as high as 1600 with no success. I have three lenses 1) 75-300mm 1.5m/4.9ft 1:4-5.6 2) Ultrasonic 35-135mm 1:4-5.6 3) EFS 18-55mm .28m/.9ft. I am not an expert at the digital camera and was wondering if there are any settings to we need to find to help make this happen, or if I have to go back to my film Canon Rebel and by high speed film. Thanks, Connie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakon_soreide Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 What were your shutter speeds at full open apertures at ISO 1600. From that you can calculate whether for instance getting a f1.8, f1.4 or even a f1.2 lens might be what you need to get the shots... If the images include subject movement, which I assume it does since you're probably not taking pictures just of the room but of the people in it, that might be the only way to go.<p> If you need to push it even further, you can add exposure compensation to underexpose by one or two stops as necessary - it will give you noisier pictures as you bring the exposure up in post-processing, but it is still a lot better than blurry shots, and noise reduction can get rid of the worst of it.<p> High speed film might potentially turn out a lot more grainy than turning up the ISO in a digital camera... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuppyDigs Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 The largest aperture of your zooms is F4. That's really slow for available light without a tripod. You should consider buying or renting a fast prime, e.g., EF 35 2.0 or EF 50 1.8. If you demand a zoom, a fast zoom such as an EF-S 17-55 2.8 IS USM would gain you a stop and steady your hand with IS. I've used that lens to shoot in murky bars and casinos and got many amazingly sharp pics. As for the yellow color, that's simply a matter of WB. You can set it manually. Personally I'd shoot RAW and mess with WB later. RAW also makes it easier to add EC if the pics are too dark. Sometimes the light’s all shining on me. Other times I can barely see. - Robert Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bs Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 I'd think about picking up a fast 50(1.4) and/or 85(1.8). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tahir Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 Use your shutter speeds around 30 or less at full open apertures at ISO 1600 and put your camera on tripod. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emre Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 I wonder how one would use an 85mm lens on a 1.6x crop body in a delivery room. Lots of options: Go wide and shoot high ISO. Lean against the wall. Get a monopod. Rent a better camera like the 5D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_parrott Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 A *dark* delivery room? I would think of all places a delivery room would be quite bright? We are talking about a hospital delivery room right? And it is dark? I would think 1600 ISO would be plenty of speed under those conditions, even without a very fast lens. I agree, shoot RAW and work with white balance later. There should be plenty of white in the delivery room to target when adjusting the WB in post processing. Definitely get OUT of the PROGRAM mode. I would use TV priority, (shutter speed priority) and set a speed of around 125. Again, with the high ISO I would think this would give you enough light under the conditions, unless they are delivering babies in dark rooms now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bs Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 Okay. It must be nitpick Sunday. How about just looking into a fast, inexpensive prime in an appropriate focal length for size of the room and the crop factor that you're dealing with. It appears that a ~$250-400 investment would do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taner Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 85mm, or even the 50mm will be a recipe for heartbreak... <p> This one is from the days of film - Rebel G, EF 28mm/2.8 with Ilford XP2 400 film exposed at ISO 800: <p><img src="http://d6d2h4gfvy8t8.cloudfront.net/2934823-lg.jpg"></p> Try 35mm or wider, and you should rule out anything slower than f/2.8. <p> EF 28/2.8 is probably your cheapest bet in terms of buying. Renting an L series wide f/1.4 lens (either the 24 or the 35) is probably the ideal solution. <p> Good luck - with everything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_cochran Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 <cite>A *dark* delivery room? I would think of all places a delivery room would be quite bright?</cite> <p> They vary, but many have quite subdued lighting. It can be downright dark during parts of the labor process. In most hospitals, there will be very bright "operating room" style lights which the doctors can turn on if and when needed, but otherwise, it can be fairly dim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou_miller Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 I have typically found that my 50 1.8 works well in this environment, which you can get for $70. When the baby is on the table being cleaned up with the bright warming light on him, you will have plenty of light, the challenge comes in the recovery room, but if you have a window or can turn on some lights you should be able to get some available light shots. I set aperture to 2.8 and I believe 800 ISO and find that works well--you should be able to get in the 1/80 shutter speed range. I concur with others that wider is better with the crop sensor and the sometimes small hospital rooms so if you can get a wider prime, that would work well. I also agree with others that the lattitude of shooting raw with regard to your control over white balance and exposure will be helpful. I have the good fortune of taking such pictures on four separate occasions. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCL Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 In the olden film days, when my daughter was born, I used ISO 400-650 (Tri-x), and a 35mm lens set at around f2.8, varying the shutter speed from around 1/60-1/125. The pix were priceless. When my granddaughter was born two years ago, I shot ISO film around 400 (Tri-x again), with a 50mm lens set at f2.8, using aperture priority..I'm guessing shutter speeds were in a similar range. If you're shooting that slow and with a wide aperture, be prepared to brace yourself/camera and be careful of shallow depth of field - ie focus on what you want to be in focus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clumeng Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 Another vote for a Canon prime 50mm f1.8 (~$80) or f1.4 (~$240). It will do the trick since its footprint is small and has very nice bokeh (background blur). You say that you shoot in P mode. Try to use Av (aperture priority) and dial it low enough (wide apertures) to get exposure times 1/60 or less which should be doable in the delivery room. Again the warming lights will be very bright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_hall4 Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 I took this photo of my daughter with my Digital Rebel 300D some time back. I have a lot of photos of both my kids in the hospital made with the 300D with no flash. I just took a look at the meta data at several of them and the most were shot at ISO400 f5.6. That was the 18-55mm kit lens. I think you will be fine. Jason<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_hall4 Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 This one was shot at ISO100 f4.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_hall4 Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 And again ISO400 F5.6.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_hall4 Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 BTW most of my shots were around 1/40 shutter, give or take. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phule Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 [[i have typically found that my 50 1.8 works well in this environment]] I took the Rebel XT and the 50mm f/1.8 to the hospital when my son was born. It was a fantastic combination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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