davecaz Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 I took a chance on non-refundable Pentax ME Super, yesterday, and I think I made a bad decision. While the lenses, a Pentax 50mm f/2 and a Vivitar 80-200mm f/4.5, appear absolutely mint, the body has some minor paint loss around the edges of the film door, signs of wear on the prism, and the meter doesn't seem to work. It didn't work in the store, but they never do, at thrift stores. Usually, it's due to dead or missing batteries but, this time, fresh batteries didn't make a difference. What seems odd to me is that, even though this is a highly automated camera, it still seems to work despite the lack of visible metering. That seems odd because I'm shooting it on the Auto setting, which I would expect to be reliant upon the meter. What it's actually doing, though, is a mystery. I guess the meter could be working and just the LEDs are failing to light up, but I'm not sure that's really possible. It's a shame because it seems like a really nice camera, aside from that. The viewfinder is big and bright and clean. The film advance is smooth, which I know because it came with film in it. That seems to be a trend, with me. And it's a nice compact OM-size body that seems solidly built, with no obvious damage. I was able to move the mode dial off of Auto, to M(anual), but that didn't solve the metering problem. I can't tell if the manual shutter speed buttons work, or not. So, I don't know if this thing is usable, or not. Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Collins Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 The ME Super will shoot at 1/125s with no batteries or on bulb, but no other speeds will work. Your electronics sound as though they're dead, especially if nothing is lighting up in the viewfinder. The good thing is that ME Supers are not very expensive on ebay so it would be easy to replace the one you have.It's one of my favorite cameras, the first 35mm SLR I ever used! A lot of people like the MX better because it's mechanical and only relies on the batteries to run the meter, but I like that the ME Super has a top shutter speed of 1/2000 vs 1/1000 on the MX. It's a nice, smooth camera to use and the size, along with the MX, is so nice and compact. I hope you'll get another one because I think you'll really enjoy using it. DISCUSS POST QUESTIONS & GET ANSWERS FROM 40+ PHOTOGRAPHY FORUMS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Seaman Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Are you absolutely sure the batteries are inserted correctly? It's easy to get this wrong on these as the batteries seem to go in upside down compared with many cameras. I once bought one for next to nothing, as it was apparently faulty, inverted the batteries, and away it went. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennisbrown Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Are you absolutely sure the batteries are inserted correctly? It's easy to get this wrong on these as the batteries seem to go in upside down compared with many cameras. I once bought one for next to nothing, as it was apparently faulty, inverted the batteries, and away it went. And a P/S to John's post - Don't forget to clean the ground. In the battery compartment you can get a cold ground if anything impedes the current flow. Get some Scotch Brite and clean the inside of the battery cap along with the contacts in the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecaz Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 The ME Super will shoot at 1/125s with no batteries or on bulb, but no other speeds will work. Your electronics sound as though they're dead, especially if nothing is lighting up in the viewfinder. The good thing is that ME Supers are not very expensive on ebay so it would be easy to replace the one you have.It's one of my favorite cameras, the first 35mm SLR I ever used! A lot of people like the MX better because it's mechanical and only relies on the batteries to run the meter, but I like that the ME Super has a top shutter speed of 1/2000 vs 1/1000 on the MX. It's a nice, smooth camera to use and the size, along with the MX, is so nice and compact. I hope you'll get another one because I think you'll really enjoy using it. DISCUSS POST QUESTIONS & GET ANSWERS FROM 40+ PHOTOGRAPHY FORUMS Lots of good info, there. Thanks, Andy. Oddly enough, I did happen to find another one today, and that one works. I think. The LEDS light up, anyway. They do change/move as I open or close down the aperture. But, it seems to go from Over directly to Under, never happy. That doesn't seem right. Does it only work when there's film in it? Are you absolutely sure the batteries are inserted correctly? It's easy to get this wrong on these as the batteries seem to go in upside down compared with many cameras. I once bought one for next to nothing, as it was apparently faulty, inverted the batteries, and away it went. I like your thinking, but yes, I tried turning them around, just in case. It made no difference. And the same batteries that don't work in the first one DO work in the second one, so they're not the problem. And a P/S to John's post - Don't forget to clean the ground. In the battery compartment you can get a cold ground if anything impedes the current flow. Get some Scotch Brite and clean the inside of the battery cap along with the contacts in the bottom. Now, that's something worth trying. The battery cap on the one that doesn't work is a bitty cruddy looking. I'll update the thread after I test that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecaz Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 And a P/S to John's post - Don't forget to clean the ground. In the battery compartment you can get a cold ground if anything impedes the current flow. Get some Scotch Brite and clean the inside of the battery cap along with the contacts in the bottom. Ding, ding ding! Winner, winner, chicken dinner! Your theory, sir, was correct. Since I had two battery caps, and I knew that one of them didn't cause a problem, I put that one on the non-working camera, and turned it into a working camera. So, now I knew the theory was correct, and cleaned up the other cap, and it, too, worked. No surprise, but much happiness. So, now it looks like the "bad" camera may be the "good" one, because the meter behaves as I would expect. The second one still behaves oddly, with the lights dancing around for no apparent reason. Now that I've seen one that works, I can't help thinking that it may be a built-in signal about something, but I don't know what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecaz Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 Well, it's all good, now. I discovered that I had the second camera in Manual mode, and that apparently makes the meter behave differently. I don't know why they thought that was a good idea, but the camera behaves the way they designed it to act, as far as I can tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moving On Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 That is a great little camera. My first SLR was an ME, second was an ME Super. Ran a lot of film through both. Still running today, almost 40 years later. A belt clip and pancake lens make a great casual shooter out of it. Does the Pentax ME belt clip fit the ME Super as well? - PentaxForums.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecaz Posted March 27, 2018 Author Share Posted March 27, 2018 That is a great little camera. My first SLR was an ME, second was an ME Super. Ran a lot of film through both. Still running today, almost 40 years later. A belt clip and pancake lens make a great casual shooter out of it. Does the Pentax ME belt clip fit the ME Super as well? - PentaxForums.com I like the idea, but I'm not the kind of guy who could safely do that. The camera would last 1/2 a day on my belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moving On Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Not good for day outside. Museum, art gallery or similar outing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_elwing Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Anyhow you sound happy, davecaz, :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradleycloven Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 These micro sized Pentaxes are great. The ME Super was my daily carry in a bike bag because I had two, they were light, cheap, reliable enough, had great glass, and were easily replaced if damaged. The MX is now my daily carry. If the battery fails, it still operates on Sunny 16. I have two, so if lost, stolen or broken, I am not too sad. When I go on photo safari, I carry something more interesting. But it is very hard to beat these little Pentaxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 For no particular reason, it may be interesting to some that this camera in a slightly modified form (the ME-F) was the first autofocus (AF) 35 mm SLR camera to reach production. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Collins Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 I'm glad you got it working. I can't wait to hear what you think of it after you've used it for a bit. Like Bradley said, they're great cameras! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecaz Posted March 30, 2018 Author Share Posted March 30, 2018 For no particular reason, it may be interesting to some that this camera in a slightly modified form (the ME-F) was the first autofocus (AF) 35 mm SLR camera to reach production. [ATTACH=full]1238664[/ATTACH] That's interesting. But is it the camera that autofocuses or the lens? It's hard to tell whether the part that says AUTO FOCUS is part of the lens or the camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecaz Posted March 30, 2018 Author Share Posted March 30, 2018 I'm glad you got it working. I can't wait to hear what you think of it after you've used it for a bit. Like Bradley said, they're great cameras! Well, they sort of got put aside, for now, when I discovered that the one that I thought had film in it, doesn't. So, now I don't know why the frame counter moves/moved, so now I have another mystery, and less time to investigate it. I wish I only had one of them. Then I wouldn't know that one of them is acting strangely. But, I don't know which one is acting correctly and which one is acting strangely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moving On Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 (edited) The frame counter registers each shutter release with or without film. Resets when back is opened and closed. Posted a couple of shots from mine..... Film Camera Week for March 30 I was using that little belt clip when I took these...... Edited March 30, 2018 by Moving On Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 But is it the camera that autofocuses or the lens? It's hard to tell whether the part that says AUTO FOCUS is part of the lens or the camera. both, but the body will work non af with other than the AF zoom lens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecaz Posted March 30, 2018 Author Share Posted March 30, 2018 The frame counter registers each shutter release with or without film. Resets when back is opened and closed. One of mine does that, the other one doesn't. I wonder if opening the back to reset it would kickstart it. Posted a couple of shots from mine..... Film Camera Week for March 30 I was using that little belt clip when I took these...... I saw those. Gorgeous Velvia colors! both, but the body will work non af with other than the AF zoom lens Much like any other AF system, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Much like any other AF system, I guess. Absolutely. Unfortunately, though first, it was not as satisfactory in use as the later cameras like the Maxxum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecaz Posted March 31, 2018 Author Share Posted March 31, 2018 Absolutely. Unfortunately, though first, it was not as satisfactory in use as the later cameras like the Maxxum. Well, it does look a bit "clunky", by comparison. I'd imagine it adds a fair amount of weight to a lightweight camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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