beth_hamilton Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 <p>So at uni we have 1 or 2 of these creamy white plastic reels which look exactly the same as the auto load Paterson ones, but they have extra plastic flat bits at the entrance near the ball-bearings and basically allow you to hold the film flat against them whilst threading into the ball-bearings. Any ideas if these are Paterson and where I can find some from?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_aellis1 Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 <p>Very good chance that they are these, they are less expensive then paterson and IMO, much better:</p> <p>http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/122989-REG/Samigon_ESA325_Multi_Format_Autofeed_Reel.html</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 <p>Those are the ones use. They fit the Paterson tanks no problem.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btmuir Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 <p>I have one and actually like it for 120/220 when I'm not using ss.</p> <p>I think they might have come with a Paterson clone tank (not the sytem 4 type) that is marked "made in spain"</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beth_hamilton Posted November 22, 2009 Author Share Posted November 22, 2009 <p>Oh thanks Tom, that's the one! I cannot find them in the UK however.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archaeoImages Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 <p>You can get them in the UK from Firstcall Photographic - <a href="http://firstcall-photographic.co.uk/shop/categories/film-processing-equipment/0/ap/ap-developing-tank-reel/">http://firstcall-photographic.co.uk/shop/categories/film-processing-equipment/0/ap/ap-developing-tank-reel/</a></p> <p>They're branded AP but I think they are identical to those described above. They are particularly good with 120 film.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_aellis1 Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 <p>There are many "Look a likes" of these so be careful. For some reason, these are just fantistic and at such a low price. Strongly suggest that if you can't find them that you have them shipped over the pond. If they help save just one roll of film it will be worth it.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User_502260 Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 <p>I have two of these. They also go under other brand names. I haven't developed film with either of them but I loaded a practice roll into one of them. Several years ago I thought I might get my son interested in picture taking and film developing. He was nearly able to load a regular Paterson reel. I got the new reels thinking they might be easier for him to load. He now uses a Canon digital p&s camera.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 <p>So you failed as a Father to him you are saying? or they made him become a Digital failure? ... Just kidding.<br> I had 1 daughter who I went totally into showing her how to use an enlarger is now all digital and the other one who got intersted now only uses film</p> <p> Is this you Jeff<br> http://shaareyyeshua.org/aRabbi/about_rabbi.htm</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andylynn Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 <p>One of my reels came with an inexpensive kit I got from Freestyle a while back, looks like that Samigon/AP one and it's much better for medium format than the Paterson reels.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_aellis1 Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 <p>Those Samigon reels are one of the best kept secrets around. No more I guess. :)<br> I've never had a single problem with one of them, before I purchased my jobo, unless the reel was wet. My bad.<br> When you develop afterwards, send me your negs for a lil ol' drum scan. I'm about to purchase a Linotype Hell drum scanner. A bit bigger then an SUV and better mileage.<br> :)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beth_hamilton Posted November 22, 2009 Author Share Posted November 22, 2009 <p>Jeff, you wouldn't happen to want to part way with just one of those reels would you? ;)<br> I've had such trouble loading onto the normal Paterson reels with medium format film, resulting in a huge scratch on the middle of a reasonably important shot.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 <p>Freestyle used to sell them alone but I can't find them with Freestyles outdated search system.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_aellis1 Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 <p>Why not just buy them at B&H, I think they are $12 or so....</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beth_hamilton Posted November 22, 2009 Author Share Posted November 22, 2009 <p>I would, but I'm in Britain and the postage is very expensive.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_aellis1 Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 <p>Oh, that stinks. Can I help. I.e., purchase them for you and send them in a less expensive manner?<br> BTW, I have just begun watching, via Netflix streaming, the BBC show "Coupling" it is the funniest TV show I've ever seen in my life.<br> It's like "Friends" but adult.<br> Let me know if I can help.<br> Tom</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archaeoImages Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 <p>In case you missed it the first time...</p> <p><a href="http://firstcall-photographic.co.uk/shop/categories/film-processing-equipment/0/ap/ap-developing-tank-reel/">http://firstcall-photographic.co.uk/shop/categories/film-processing-equipment/0/ap/ap-developing-tank-reel/</a></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_aellis1 Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 <p>I hate to be a grudge, but these are NOT the same ones.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 <p>OK then what are the same one's Tom?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_aellis1 Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 <p>Larry, I'm sorry, I'm not trying to argue, but I don't understand your question. The AP and the Samigon are two different reels. The AP may very well be just as good. I'm just saying they are not the Samigons. Their not under a different brand name etc... the AP's are just AP's, a different brand.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beth_hamilton Posted November 22, 2009 Author Share Posted November 22, 2009 <p>Ah sorry Archaeo, I must've missed it before.<br> Tom - thanks for the offer, I might get the ones that Archaeo posted above. <br /> Ya know, I have not actually seen much of that Coupling show! I've seen lots of Friends though =P</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archaeoImages Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 <p>They look the same & they work the same... so what's the problem?<br> The ones I have don't have any brand ID on the reel itself but came in an AP box. Probably made on the same production line in China.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 <p>No fight here I bet they ar all from the same injection molds just sold by different names.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_aellis1 Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 <p>Thats what I'm saying. There is NO problem. But I don't want to say they work as good because I don't know that. Paterson SHOULD work the same to as advertisied but in my mind, they stink.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 <p>I hate the small loading gates the Paterson reels have.. But I use them as i have plenty of then but I also have the ones with as I cal them Wing load gates....</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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