chad_hahn Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 I have a Leica for sale on eBay. I received an email yesterday from a supposed interested party. They said that they were interested and had a lot of questions and wondered if they could get my phone number so they could call me. Of course I didn't want some wacko calling me day and night so I said I was out of town and why didn't they email me the questions they had and I'd respond to them. Later I noticed that the email address was ____@yahoo.cn cn being China. I can't imagine someone being interested enough to call me halfway around the world to talk to me about my camera (even though it is a wonderful and all around great camera). I guess it must be some kind of scam but what can one do with my phone number? Any ideas? Thanks, Chad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiew Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 You are way too paranoid. I guarantee tons of people already have your phone number. Why dont you just have them call you at work or something if you are really worried. Also I imagine someone looking for a Leica probably will not sweat the cost of a phone call to the US. Especially considering the closest strong Leica market for them is Japan, and we all know the prices they fetch there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_burke3 Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Hong Kong was always a big centre for Leica colelctors, and it's perfectly possible that people in Shanghai and other chinese cities have got the same bug. China, like many fast-developing societies, is a place of huge inequalities. Many people there have trouble finding enough daily food, but there are also many people who seriously rich by any standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_m__toronto_ Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 i wouldn't worry. i've called around the world when interested in something. probably 2 bucks in phone charges. not bad for peace of mind on his end no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_d5 Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 When I was living in Indonesia, and bidding on ebay, I would appreciate it if I could know the person who is selling the Leica is a real person. And don't want to be scammed. It would give a much more assured feeling of not getting scammed. A phone number to talk to the seller directly would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan flanders Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 You have no way of knowing why they would want your phone number and although a lot of people may already have it that is no reason for you to reveal it under those circumstnces. They can use it for spam and you will get hundreds of returned messages that you didn't originate. One piece here and another there and bingo! someone steals your identity and you get ripped off. You aren't paranoid, you are just being cautious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Blackwell Images Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Chad: I honestly can't figure out what you could possibly be afraid of in this case. Just out of curiosity, what exactly are you selling? “When you come to a fork in the road, take it ...” – Yogi Berra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul t Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Their email, if it came via eBay, will have a username attached, and you will be able to check their feedback. If their feedback if non-existent, and yours is good, chances are they are a scammer. If your feedback is minimal, and theirs is good, perhaps they think <i>you</i> are a scammer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Blackwell Images Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 "They can use it for spam and you will get hundreds of returned messages that you didn't originate." What? That's way out there... Do you think someone could place a virus through your phone line? “When you come to a fork in the road, take it ...” – Yogi Berra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul a. roid Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 maybe you should call the buyer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 you're worried about a phone call? if i was buying a camera over the net, i think i might want to talk to the seller just make sure it's legit. too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad_hahn Posted September 6, 2004 Author Share Posted September 6, 2004 I guess what I'm afraid of is somebody wanting to talk to me about different brands of scotch, Tilley hats and Mephisto shoes. Like I need that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
________1 Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 You need to get out a little more Chad; a phone call to China is nothing these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Blackwell Images Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 In most cases I can tell you as a Leica user, in a case like this (on eBay), I always would want to talk to the seller about an item (especially on an M body). “When you come to a fork in the road, take it ...” – Yogi Berra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb v. Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Chad, quite a serious problem in UK is the hijacking of people's phone numbers through which people, particularly in the Far East, make calls to premium rate numbers which they own. I don't know how it works but many people here have opened phone bills and seen long phone calls to premium numbers abroad they had never called. So its always better to err on the side of caution. Plus what could be said by phone that couldn't by email? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_m__toronto_ Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 seb, it's not what couldn't be said over email that could over phone, but the tone of voice and the way they sound. a couple min's on the phone can give the extra assurance you may need when making a purchase like this. i know it has for me. if you're worried, get his number and you spend the few bucks to make a call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brambor Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 If the item I'm interested goes for a lot of money by my standards I always request a phone number so that I can talk to the person and also to do address verification of who they claim they really are. When I sell items I always give people my phone number at the end of the e-mail if they ask me a question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_lieberman1 Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 I agree with Rene. Give him your phone number. If it turns out to be a mistake, there's always the Federal Witness Protection Program. Seriously, I'd give my (work) number if I were selling an item of value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socke Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Chad, if you are so concerned about revealing anything about you, why do you trade on eBay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markci Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 I was shocked recently to find that my local telephone company was actually PUBLISHING PEOPLE'S TELEPHONE NUMBERS! In a big book that they'd just leave lying around all over town, no less! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__stu_evans Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Maybe the guy doesn't quite trust a sneaky American - those capitalists all think arike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syed_shah Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 Just buy a cell phone at a retail business,providing home phone number,address, social security number, date of birth for credit worthiness to secure a contract and then produce your credit card to complete the purchase. I don't know what is the missing link in this chain of identity theft? Syed shah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karl_keung Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 ask him to use web phone, or video cam through the web, on apple you have isight, I am sure there are equivalent on pc as well. i have been reading Leica's quarter report, only the far east has shown substantial sales growth. sometimes it is strange to see on ebay that the seller does not ship overseas, even now on german ebay, they are starting to use both german and english, ebay is about international trade, not local garage sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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