link Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 I've just put my website "on the air". I would like to know how the site is working on other computers and general feedback and critique. The photography page is: http://brucealangreene.com/photographs.html I chose to post in this forum as I admire many of your discussions and leica photo postings. Also, many of the photographs on my site are shot with rangefinder cameras. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
________1 Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 I have two nitpicks: reduce the dimensions of the images. I shouldn�t have scroll around trying to fit each image into my fully open browser window--only to find a lot of them don�t quite fit after all. It�s too much screwing around. Also, consider linking the images so I can just click on the current image to progress through the collection. You have a lot of very good photos here, glad you posted the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray . Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 You've got some good photos.... not sure about the organization, or lack of it. Agree it would be better to link the pictures together so you don't need to go back to the thumbnails each time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray . Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 btw, I don't mind the size. In fact I've been thinking lately for myself it's sometimes preferable to be able to see things larger and in more detail and just scroll if need be. These don't seem too oversize to be troublesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capocheny Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 BG, You have some nice images on your site... like Ray, I don't have a problem with the image sizes. I'd rather see a little bit more than too little. The other way of dealing with the thumbnail images is to have them all located on a sidebar. Then, when you drag the mouse over the images, they enlarge themselves in an area outside the sidebar. Hope that helps. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_elek Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 Even with a high-speed connection, the page takes too long to load. You should reduce the file size of your thumbnails. Currently, they seem to run about 22k. You have ... what ... about 50 photos? 50 photos x 22k is 1 megabyte. That's way too large. People on a slower connection will give up and move on before the page finishes loading. And that would be a shame, because you have some very nice work here. Reducing the thumbnails to 10k each still gives you a page that's roughly 500k. I would make them slightly smaller and with slightly more compression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huw_finney Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 I agree with Mike, but you could make them even smaller (k byte wise) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_evans4 Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 <p>I'm surprised it's displayed at all. What kind of HTML is this, with a "spacer" tag, etc.? See <a href="http://htmlhelp.com/cgi-bin/validate.cgi?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbrucealangreene.com%2Fphotographs.html+&warnings=yes&input=yes">this page</a> for a revelation of how it rates against the 4.01 Transitional that it claims to be.</p><p>Syntax errors aside, there are basic HTML problems; notably that the whole thing is in a table whose width is set at 1022 pixels. What if your browser window is narrower than this? You have to scroll horizontally. Uck.</p><p>Sorry to be so negative, but I'm not necessarily blaming you. A meta tag implies that this is produced by Adobe GoLive. If that's so, uninstall and delete Adobe GoLive.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimvanson Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 Great shots, very good presentation. Size is perfect, load is fast bloody well done!<P><a href="http://tinyurl.com/3fg89"><b>Two Young Girls</b></a> has a classic TriX look / feel and <a href="http://brucealangreene.com/photoswebfolder/syncroswimmers.html"><b>Syncronized Swimmers </b></a> is a hoot.<P>Now I gotta stir it up -- First decent Leica Post I've seen in a coons age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_evans4 Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 Yes, the photo of two girls is great. I'm not keen on the photo of the building with the toadstool sky, but you have some excellent photos. My criticism above is purely of the markup for the opening page, not of the photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas_sullivan Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 heh........cool validator Peter........dont take it to heart too much though bg...although im sure it's all valid errors.........run "photo.net" thru it........ ;o) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronald_moravec1 Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 No problem navigating. I personally do not like clicking the next buttoms. This way I can pick and choose and and not look at the ones I am not interested in. Thumbnails on a side bar usually are way too small. I don`t know much about web design, but if you could leave the thumbnail window up and have a new window open when an image is clicked, the thumbs wouldn`t need to be reloaded each time. I`m using dsl so mine is fast enough as is. BTY, I liked many of your pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brambor Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 I like it. It is simple and that's why I like it. You click to get the picture and go back to click on another one. I don't like it when pics are too small so I enjoyed your picture sizes but perhaps 10% reduction in size would reduce the scrolling on an average monitor. I like most of the pictures with the exception of you sitting in a bathroom. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam_portera Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 I like it! Great images. I like the mix of subject matter. Loads fast enough for me. Good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattalofs Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 Nice images. A couple of things. 1. As others have said, the images are little large. Try 600 pixels for max width. 2. Better navigation would be nice. 3. Don't worry about having invalid HTML. Photo.net and most other sites on the net don't conform to any HTML standard. I noticed that you used Adobe Golive to create the pages. Practicaly any web design program generates "invalid" code. Unless you are willing to code everything by hand with xhtml book sitting in front of you, validity is futile quest. matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_evans4 Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 <p><em>Don't worry about having invalid HTML. Photo.net and most other sites on the net don't conform to any HTML standard.</em></p><p>How about "Don't worry if your photos are boring. Most photos are boring"? Most people's photos <em>are</em> boring (mine certainly are), but so? Should we just give up?</p><p>It's certainly true that photo.net has M$IE-proprietary and otherwise crappy markup. I've no idea why. What Would Philip Greenspun Say?</p><p><em>I noticed that you used Adobe Golive to create the pages. Practicaly any web design program generates "invalid" code. Unless you are willing to code everything by hand with xhtml book sitting in front of you, validity is futile quest.</em></p><p>First, no, GoLive is particularly bad. (So is FrontPage.) There are exceptions: <a href="http://www.chami.com/html-kit/">HTML-Kit</a> and <a href="http://www.w3.org/Amaya/">Amaya</a> are among the good programs and they're both free. Secondly, tagging by hand is easy; I'm doing it right now -- and there's no (X)HTML book in sight. Thirdly, you don't tag <em>everything</em> by hand; you semi-automate it with <a href="http://www.labyrinth.net.au/~dbareis/ppwizard.htm" title="exemplified by another free program, this one for a variety of operating systems">preprocessing</a> or similar.</p><p><a title="by Philip Greenspun" href="http://philip.greenspun.com/panda/html">Learn to program HTML in 21 minutes</a>.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
link Posted May 29, 2004 Author Share Posted May 29, 2004 Thanks for the feedback everyone. Much appreciated. As for writing my own html? What is tagging? Sorry guys, I'll never program even in html. Just thinking about it gives me a headache. I admire all of you that can do this easily. I'm just satisfied if the site plays for everyone. If it's a little slow, I can live with it. I did not design the site for dial-up. The real purpose of the site is for video display of my professional work. I'm ok with loosing the dial-up viewers. But the thought of shrinking the size of 50 photos and re-uploading the pages - that will be a lot of work. I guess I keep my monitor at a high pixel display, even though it's only a 19in crt. The photos look small on it, but I can squeeze more pallets in photoshop into the screen. Thanks again, -bruce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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