I have never been to the rust belt except in Summer and in Portland and Mt Hood. I am looking tomorrow at a two grand $ sign up with a motor coach tour of retirees like me on a place called "Exploritas." (used to be Elderhostel). Up and down the coast and to Crater Lake. Earlier dates in September all filled up already... Sure, I know that I will not get all the shooting I want in a crowd, who could, but I can handle that and is offset for me at 73 but fairly spry an no disabilty but a little persnickity about a soft pillow with the luxury of a motor coach to park and drive for me, and someone else taking care of meals and lodgings and crap, (about 7 days tour for two grand, plus my air fare to Portland and back._ Question: Before I plunk down a deposit soon, is late September a real iffy cold and rainy like time weather- wise for us thin blooded Hawaiian types? Or is it a just all depends thing in late Fall? I hate to have to plan three months in advance, but, cest la vie, it looks like bookings get filled fast If I don't .. Your thoughts, touring wise, photo wise, clothing wise....mostly is weather a deal breaker do you think?