Older DSLR recommendation.

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by mark4583|1, Jan 30, 2021.

  1. Someone once said that there are no "stupid questions". So I'm going to ask a couple:
    - what does your wife currently - and actively - do with photography?
    - which limitations does she experience that would lead her to believe that a DSLR would expand these limitations and how exactly?
    - if she needs a DSLR, the assumption seems to be that it should be a Nikon, Why?

    My suggestion is to go back to basics. What does you wife want to photograph? Which kind of camera (mobile phone, point & shoot, compact, exchangeable lens system. mirrorless, DSLR) is most likely to cover her requirements/ambitions?

    There are (I assume still ) many ''compact'' cameras around that have optical zoom and manual control. They might not be the best cameras for the fastest shutter speeds (sport) or very low light but in most situations they work fine.

    Bottom line: discuss with your wife would she would like to be able to photograph now and maybe in the future. Only then look for a 'solution'.
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  2. I've brought several fixed lens cameras new (an underwater compact, boroscope camera, spy camera...) all under £50 each & none of which I consider 'real cameras'.
    With my real cameras only one was still in production when I got it, though it's replacement was also available. It seems the majority have been 5 year old designs when I've brought them. To me that's seemed to offer a sweet-spot in the balance between price & latest features.
  3. I received my D300 today. It's got a mere 1,856 actuations! The camera was very dusty out of the box, but cleaned up nicely.

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    The dynamic range is pretty crap compared to the D810, but that's my only complaint so far. The resolution is fine for most of what I do. I like the dedicated dial for metering mode. I do wish I could toggle Auto ISO without diving into the menus. And I have to get used to using the lever to unlatch the memory card door.

    One undeniable benefit of the low-resolution sensor is that shutter shock is a non-issue. No using MUp and EFCS with this little guy—which is good, because what EFCS?

    I was pleasantly surprised to find that the D300 worked just fine with my one lens that has electronic aperture control. So the only incompatibility is with AF-P focusing. I can live with that!
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  4. Congratulations! It looks nice. I had used D300/s for years and happy with it - as long as ISO is at or below 1600.
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  5. EFCS...Electronic First Curtain Shutter.

    Reduces shutter shock.
  6. I went through the Nikon DSLR upgrade cycle. I started with a D70 -> D80 -> D90 ->D7000 -> D7100. I quickly outgrew the D70. The D80 was a meaningful improvement just for the extra MP and slightly better low light resolution. The D90 was a revelation. Excellent in all respects. I felt the D7000 was a step backward. This was the only Nikon body where I felt I was fighting the camera to get a good picture. I quickly moved on to a 7100 and have not needed or wanted a further improvement. The 7100 took all of the good parts of the D90, and added much higher resolution, better metering and exceptional low light resolution. For my use, the D7100 is a great all around body. I also use if for scanning negatives using a ES2 package and dedicated Nikon lens. Again- outstanding results.
  7. I also have stuck with a D7100 for some time now. I started with a D3200 which I found quite nice for many things (and very portable) but with pretty poor noise performance above ISO400. My wife had the 7100, but was bugged by its small buffer. That bothered me less, so one Christmas she got a new D7200 and I got her D7100. Seven years down the road, it's still working fine, and I don't anticipate replacing it until something goes wrong.

    Nowadays, the price on one of these has gotten pretty low, and there's really not much it can't do.
  8. Recall Thom Hogan making the argument that the "good enough" metric was blunting makers' efforts to sell upgraded cameras many owners felt they didn't need. The D7200 seems like the DSLR equivalent of the N90s/F90x film body that ran rings around the clumsy F4. The D7200 did many things well enough for a large audience. They're stone-cold bargains now.
  9. I have a little of the same.
    I still have all my DSLR cameras except D200, which I only had one month, as it used a lot of power, and the D300 was then released, so I exchanged. I have made a small effort to sell D300 and D700, but the shops here will only pay peanuts. I have therefore decided to do the same as I did, when I arrived in Saigon in 1994. I had Minolta SR7 and ST101 and 4 lenses incl. a 200mm, but nobody wanted to pay anything. I then happened to see a photo exhibition in the lobby of one of the bigger hotels, and found out that all photos were from the Saigon Street Children Photo Club. I found a foreigner, who was involved with the club, and arranged that they got my equipment. I then went for Nikon D90X with backpack, which I still have. The day I find a similar club/orphanage with somebody interested, they will get the D300 and D700 and the batteries and CF cards, then at least some unfortunate kids can get something different from old smartphones with games!
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  10. That's the problem with old Nikons, they never break. To my D50: please stop working so I can justify a newer camera. D50 to Z50?
  11. That's a good use of old equipment. A neighbor has asked me to post to my club FB page to sell her D5000 kit with 18-55, sigma tele, and an old Nikon 55mm f/3.5 (with rabbit ears), and a Pentax K1000. No taker, So I am buying her D5000 kit to donate to New Urban Art for youths. When I told her, she said I can have the whole thing for $100. Good deal. Good neighbor.
  12. The problem with donating is that to make sure that recipients appreciate and use your donation and not just stash them somewhere and feeling bad because you gave them inferior stuff.
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  13. that is the reason I still have the 2 cameras. During the last 8 years I have gone to orphanages 2-3 times/year with donations, but the staff is in general very young and only to smartphones and the manager is an elderly lady, who is very good at taking care of children, but things/assets is so so.
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  14. These days I buy used, the last new item I bought was the D600. My Fuji X has been used, my film cameras have been used, going forward they all would be used unless new isn't that much more. My 2 newer Nikon lenses are used.

    I think for a hobby and as you say it might be a temporary thing and knowing many people at my camera club from 20s years old to 60s and 70s year olds. Many do not have full frame bodies, 3 F2.8 trio trinity pro zooms. I think if you look at the NZ Photography Society and the UK the average age group might be 60yrs. Many haven't embraced the fancy new mirrorless gear irrespective of brand. Many are still using 6 or 8yr old dSLRs, some with a 24-70 2.8 and then a macro or a nifty fifty maybe a consumer 70-300 etc ... Yes a few do have 3 pro zooms but not many of the group.

    I think the D7000 and the D700 full frame are both great cameras still, maybe they don't do video not sure how important for you. They are not that expensive now. I think some of the D5000 series can be an option too cos it is smaller. Even with my own travels I have thought that it would be more convenient than to lug my D600. As a general hobby I've never found it truly necessary to have E lenses compatibility or dual card slots etc ... Oh yeah I still have a working D70 not the best image thou or for a night evening walk after dinner re: higher ISOs.
  15. A good point. I will ask.
  16. I think in general Nikon's DX bodies peak or atleast plateau after 2 generations.

    Not sure I'd recommend the D3000, D5000 or D7000. They all have their quirks, be it no LV, low res or very limited buffer or weird battery.

    The D3200, D5100 and D7200 have settled to a winning formula. The D5300 added in body GPS and thats about it.

    The latest D7000 series went to one slot to try to de-Pro the series in favour of the D500.
  17. Interesting observation - though not quite true for the D100 - D200 - D300 - D500 succession. Valid for D70 - D80 - D90 though. And also for D1 - D1H/X - D2H/X - D2Hs/D2Xs.
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  18. It was a bit of a general observation for the 4 digit DX bodies....:)

    I had a D50, D80, D90, D5100, D3200, D5300, D7200 and D500. The D3200 was supossed to be a hi res slide digitizer 'til i realised it wasn't supported by Nikon's own tethering software, so sold it to an architect friend.

    The Z50 is an interesting progression.

    Only the D3200 was new.The D500 was an ex-review copy.
  19. So when I donate I usually give money or buy current models in the low end. I wouldn't want to give high end but old equipment because they are not appreciated and not being used. So I ended up having the old cameras for myself.
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  20. Mike, a little too late now, but you can tether a D3200 with Digicam Control.
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