hans_beckert Posted March 7, 2004 Share Posted March 7, 2004 How these products looked.... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3802321265&category=711 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discpad Posted March 7, 2004 Share Posted March 7, 2004 The seller is "photogeezer" -- Is that you, Hans?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dean_williams Posted March 7, 2004 Share Posted March 7, 2004 Neat-o daddio. Thanks for the url Hans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex_jenkins Posted March 7, 2004 Share Posted March 7, 2004 Since ebay listings eventually scroll off the URL Hans provided won't show these products in a few months. So I'll take the liberty of reproducing the photo here. I'll assume the onus for any consequences. Interesting stuff.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans_beckert Posted March 8, 2004 Author Share Posted March 8, 2004 I am puzzled by the fact that cans are no longer used for packaging developers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent1 Posted March 8, 2004 Share Posted March 8, 2004 The biggest single reason, Hans, is that cans cost more to produce than plastic bags, even with a cardboard outer box (and Kodak, at least, puts a dozen bags in each box, with the box doubling as a display unit). Additionally, plastic bags don't corrode (either inside or outside) from exposure to chemicals, providing the material is chosen properly, aren't (as) subject to physical damage in handling that might break the seal and let the contents escape or deteriorate, and don't require high heat to close (though modern cans can be closed without soldering). Same arguments apply to cans or glass bottles vs. plastic bottles for liquids like DD-X and HC-110. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans_beckert Posted March 8, 2004 Author Share Posted March 8, 2004 Campbell's seems to do just fine with cans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex_jenkins Posted March 8, 2004 Share Posted March 8, 2004 True, but notice how much food packaging has changed over the years. Far more boxes used now, with foil/plastic inner liners. I credit/blame the military. They seem to have set the precedent by switching from canned C-Rats to MREs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndc Posted March 9, 2004 Share Posted March 9, 2004 Well, rectangular boxes are more optimized for shipping than round cans are. Campbell's uses cans because the nature of the product requires a stronger container -- the loss in packing efficiency is counterbalanced by having less damaged product to replace. If someone discovered a way to store liquid in a box container that costs as much as a can, we'd all be eating soup by the cube. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans_beckert Posted March 9, 2004 Author Share Posted March 9, 2004 I find working with cans more convenient than trying to pour a Pulver from a softe packet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_s. Posted March 9, 2004 Share Posted March 9, 2004 Plastic bags and plastic coated envelopes make sense for storing and shipping powders. But I am having a hard time imagining how Campbells would put soup in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger krueger Posted March 10, 2004 Share Posted March 10, 2004 Acufine still comes in cans... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans_beckert Posted March 10, 2004 Author Share Posted March 10, 2004 It would be nice if these products could be available again. I really hate having to mix up paper developers. What about Photographer's Formulary? They could offer 51-D, 52-D, 53-D, 54-D, 55-D, 56-D, 57-D, 59-D, etc., and have almost every paper developer type covered. Defender/duPont formulas are the most complete. If anyone wants these, I can scan for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_goldfarb Posted March 10, 2004 Share Posted March 10, 2004 Artcraft Chemicals will mix up formulas for you in neatly weighed bags. Just send them the formula, and they'll quote you a price. I was going to do that for Michael Smith's Amidol formula and they sent me a price, which was reasonable, for mixing the kit, but eventually just decided to buy a scale and measure it myself. http://www.artcraftchemicals.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans_beckert Posted March 10, 2004 Author Share Posted March 10, 2004 I have chemicals and a scale, but I really just do not wish to bother anymore. Formerly I was quite willing to, but now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrylewis747 Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 well, if old is new again? J and C offers (NOW) both EFKE 100 and ORWO125. If you guys were to choose which old brand to try- which one? I just wonder if OWRO 125 is from the old OWRO factory or if its re-packaged. Sure is a good price though- $1.99 a roll. FYI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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