No Words forum

Discussion in 'Photo.net Site Help' started by Tony Parsons, Mar 26, 2021.

  1. Tony Parsons

    Tony Parsons Norfolk and Good

    Hi, folks,

    Over the past few weeks, I have noticed that more and more frequently comments are being posted to the No Words Forum. I know I am by no means innocent of this myself, but it occurs to me that when we do so, it creates extra work for the Moderators (on whom may the Sun forever shine), and I feel they have their work cut out merely keeping the site running to the best of their ability, without having to monitor other activities.

    May I suggest that we all attempt to keep to the Rules clearly posted in the Forum ?

    Thanks for reading.

    Tony
     
  2. I think that since the owners of the site have largely abandoned or ignored us for so long, we are free to let it evolve. Nobody is watching, nobody cares.
     
  3. Sandy Vongries

    Sandy Vongries Administrator Staff Member

    There are many times I would enjoy adding a comment. I generally manage to refrain from doing so. If the incentive is there for a very good photo, a PM will do. The more we let things break down through behaviors we can control the worse it will get.
     
  4. Seems a juvenile attitude. “If Big Daddy isn’t watching, I can get away with it.”

    Words in No Words has been much discussed over the years and the distinct consensus in all those discussions is to keep it free of commentary other than brief introductions where desired.

    It’s got nothing to do with site administration and more to do with respecting your mates and the essence of the forum.
     
  5. That's been my position throughout my life.
     
  6. Usually, a quick personal message to Walt, who you can contact by clicking on his name (WJT) at the top of the list of No Words threads (he posted the first thread explaining No Words guidelines) will result in his deleting the text in question. The No Words forum cleans up nicely and Walt appreciates being notified so he can stay on top of it.
     
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  7. Tony Parsons

    Tony Parsons Norfolk and Good

    People (forum members, at any rate) DO care, as evidenced by some of the responses here. It is said that a Picture is worth a thousand words, and, as Sandy says, a PM is more appropriate to convey approbation of an image, or possibly starting a thread in Casual Conversations if input is acceptable from others. I shall endeavour to follow this as 'Best Practice'.
     
  8. I care. The rules are not there for the sake of owners.
     
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  9. The highway code is for our defense, not that of the authorities .. !
     
  10. When was the last time you drove 25 mph in a 25 mph zone?
     
  11. What's that got to do with the selfishness of not abiding by a forum's clear guidelines, one which has been operating successfully for so many years, simply using it as asked and as most others do and as most others continue to want the forum to be? John Peri's was an analogy. Don't make it so literal. Let's not change the subject to your driving habits. Just follow the guidelines of the forum or start a conversation you want to have elsewhere.
     
  12. You're the one who brought up traffic...
     
  13. No, Sanford, it was John Peri who brought up traffic. Not to discuss traffic but to make a point about community cooperation. If traffic doesn’t work for you think of something else where cooperation, rather than authority, is good practice. Don’t use traffic, though, or any example to deflect from what you’re trying to undermine for the rest of us.
     
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  14. or perhaps the "better it will get" A picture of a domestic animal may require literally "no words" but it sure is nice to give identifications of wild animals and plants, artists of works of art, architects of buildings, contact information for attractive persons (joking), and the like;)

    I sorta understand the reasoning behind the restriction, but think explanatory information makes pictures meaningful and interesting.

    Are we running out of bandwidth? Is there a shortage of kilobytes? Is anyone forced to read the few lines of text?:eek:
     
    Last edited: Mar 26, 2021
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  15. Sandy Vongries

    Sandy Vongries Administrator Staff Member

    If you are going to quote me, have the courtesy to present the entire text. Using excerpts is a tactic. If people want to change No Words, still quite popular, suggest you and those who agree present a proposal to WJT and the other Moderator / Administrators.
     
  16. OK there you go. Is this really a crisis for P.net? Why is such control necessary? Who does it serve?


    Maybe just change the forum title to "few words"?:rolleyes:
     
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  17. It's simply evolving as anything "living" has to do.
     
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  18. Why don't you read the guidelines WJT wrote that are in the thread at the top of the No Words forum? It will educate you.
     
  19. Everyone will be nice again once we all get that injection ..
     
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  20. I understand the no words idea was to prevent the threads from becoming endless discussions about the images - often the case on other forums.
    A short entrance before the image can IMO be ignored easily & can help make the image more interesting.

    I usually come across threads via the 'new posts' option where the no words listing is not obvious. because of this in my early days on the forum I replied to some with comments.:oops: I suspect this restriction has reduced the time I spend on this forum, as some discussion on images is something that helps my photography evolve.
     

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