JDMvW Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 <p>Thought some of you might be interested to see the relatively unusual, but cheap and common, waist-level finder on a Nikon F.<br /> I've always felt that the non-Photomic Nikons with the plain prism are among the most beautiful SLRs ever made, but I have to admit that the waist-level finder may even be more funky than the Photomic heads.<br /> I won't post any pictures taken with the camera because in fact many of my postings were taken with essentially the same camera over the years.</p> <p>And, yes, I will stipulate that it is even nicer in black, and wish I still had one that was.....</p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summitar Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 It is a cool looking camera. I have an F with the plain prism viewfinder, also. But honestly, don't you like the feel and looks of the F2 a little better? I like the rounded edges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted December 7, 2008 Author Share Posted December 7, 2008 <p>Naw, though do like the F2 and 3 models, I still think the first one is absolutely <em>classic</em> .<br /> Like the Contax S/Pentacon SLRs and the Praktina, it builds on what I think is also a classic RF look -- that of the Contax II cameras. (Of course, the Nikon RF cameras that were tranmogrified into the F were clones of the Contax, even to lens mount, bless them. Maybe someday I'll get meself a Nikon SP)<br /> As some of you already know, I was lucky enough to get a really, really rare, all-black Contax II in just minty condition from the former Soviet Union. Can you imagine? It was so well preserved, that the black lacquer still smelled fresh. ;)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry_m Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 <p>I have exactly the same set up in a display case in my den. Right next to it is an F2 Photomic to keep it company. Jerry</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary_watson Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 Seems the reason I see so many WLFs for the F series is that they're borderline useless, much like WLFs for the Mamiya 645. Who needs full-time landscape shots, not to mention cruddy focus screens? But if looks matter more than utility, rock on, JDM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank.schifano Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 Yeah, they're cute, but they are pretty useless. I have one for my F3, and I've used it exactly once. I thought it might be handy for macro work, but then I found the magnifying eyepiece attachment and that was the end of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick j dempsey Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 <p>I actually have a friend who used to shoot his F3 almost exclusivly mounted to a short tripod on the floor with a 15mm lens and a naked focusing screen. He could have really used a WLF in those days. He's moved on to digital, but the 15mm is still in his setup... the rear screen takes the place of the WLF I suppose. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly_flanigan1 Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 <p>The WTF was not considered "useless" in the 1960's; its what one often used for macro work; slide copying; medical work; closeups; camera setups for eye doctors. Thus maybe in another 40 years film will be considered useless too.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_cox7 Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 <p>If the WLF for the Nikon F is "borderline useless" as Gary Watson claims; then perhaps he can explain why Nikon made 3 versions of the WLF for the F, plus a version each for the F2, F3, F4 and F5?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_robison3 Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 <p>My first SLR was a used Miranda with interchangeable screens and finders. In those days I sure could not afford a Nikon F! The first things I bought for the Miranda were a plain matte screen and a WLF. Acuatually used the WLF quite a bit. When the Apollo astronauts were in a parade I framed over the heads of the crowd with the camera up side down with a WLF. It was good for on the deck, wide angle shots too, didn't have to get your slacks in the mud to peer through a right angle attachment. I suppose that, as with all features, some need them, some don't.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck_foreman1 Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 <p>About 6 years ago I had my first experience using a SLR WLF with an Exa. I was surprised how easy it was and how bright the screen was. I had used TLRs (Yashica) and the difference (to me) was night and days. THE GG on the TLR is kind of grayish and compatively dark compared to the bright 2.8 Tessar on the Exa. However, I recently used it and found it a PITA, mainly because of my failing eyesight, I couldn't decide what was focused, but I'm having similar problems with the TLR too! I agree JD, that the camera lines are often nicer, without a prism to spoil the effect!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosteaM Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Beautiful set-up JDM. I posted recently the story of my Nikon F with the photomic prism which I dislike and looking after a normal eye-level prism I found out they are very pricey. WLF for this camera are cheaper but I'm not sure they are as good as the normal prism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian1664876441 Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 <p>As stated, the waste-level finder was great for copy work, microscopes, telescopes, etc. It has a high- power magnifying glass built into it, like most TLR's. It was used more for technical and documentation work. The 6x Ocular finder and slightly newer DW-2 for the F2 also had their places.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian1664876441 Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 <p>I see the new GUI interface has some problems with older web-browsers.<br> Adapting Editor... BUT- On the original Waste Level Finders, Nikon included a nice NKT green cloth and the leather case. Those are fairly hard to find these days.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_oxford Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 <p>JDM, I completely agree with you - the plain prism F is a very very classy looking camera. The irony is that the camera is better known with the Photomic head attached, which is a shame. I've wanted one of these waste level finders for a long time and have come very close to buying one for my Nikon (and for my Canon F-1 for that matter). I like the concept of waste level shooting - kinda inconspicuous, and I don't have a problem with landscape view only.<br> I reccomend you also check out the Nikon DW-2 - the 6x WL magnifier. It is GREAT. Literally like a loupe on your focusing screen. I really regret that i didn't buy one when I had the chance (despite the price). Would have been great for my astrophotography.<br> @ Kerry- I agree, the F2 does handle better... it was a very worthy replacement to the F.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_oxford Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 <p>Also, JDM, what is the first two digits of yuour serial #? It's pretty kool that yours says "Nippon Kogaku" on the top plate. I have a 68xxxxxx, which just says "Nikon" ... not nearly as fun. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 <p>Mine is a 671xxxx serial number. I was sorta pleased to get the Nippon Kogaku mark at that.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 <p>According to <a title="link to serial #s" href="http://www.destoutz.ch/typ_production_data_f.html" title="link to serial #s">Nikon serial number listing</a> , mine was made in July to October, 1965.<br /> It is not true, as the listing above shows, except sometimes coincidentally, that the first two numbers are the year of manufacture.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnpd Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 <p>That photo takes me back a lot of years. I had an F with the Photomic head and the waist level finder. I never found but one use for the waist level finder other than a conversation piece, and in that role it found plenty of use. That job was on a copy stand. It was murder trying to copy anything with an eye level finder (stepladder, anyone?), so I found a source for the waist level finder, got one and boy did it make a difference in neck strain!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted April 1, 2015 Author Share Posted April 1, 2015 <p>As a long-after addition, the picture above was 2 pixels oversize, so didn't display. It didn't use to matter, but....<br> Here is the Nikon F with the waist-level finder (also known sometimes as "waste-level") resized:</p> <div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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