Rob Davies Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Just got my copy of Nikon Pro magazine through the door (UK). Nikon D3x 24.5mp in FX, 10mp in DX crop iso 100 - 1600 (50 - 6400 expandable) 5fps FX, 7fps DX Looks just like a D3 (with a little 'x') :) ...still reading the article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jose_angel Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 We have already received rumours that an official Nikon event will be produced on next thursday 4th in the morning. I suspect that it will be that FD3x announcement. I wish to find some long awaited lens updates, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Davies Posted November 28, 2008 Author Share Posted November 28, 2008 The only lens mentioned in the magazine is the 50mm f1.4 afs (and the 18-105 DX). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Williams Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Nikon Pro is published by Nikon UK, so I'd say this counts as an official announcement. Anything on pricing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Davies Posted November 28, 2008 Author Share Posted November 28, 2008 No mention of pricing or release date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Williams Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Just found some scans of the article here: http://sebrogers.typepad.com/seb_rogers_blog/2008/11/official-nikon-d3x-specs-its-here-folks.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daverhaas Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Wonder if some poor chump in the Nikon Mail Room is out of work this morning! - I told you to mail them on Friday - not have them delivered on Friday!!!! Looks interesting for studio work and perhaps weddings... Anxious to see what the image quality looks like and if there is more coming on Monday - Such as a baby brother / sister D-400 or D-800? Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tri-x1 Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Price? I'm guessing $500 per mp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tri-x1 Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 $500 per mb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wj_lee Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Fact that they are limiting the iso to 100 - 1600 makes me think that they are going for a wide dynamic range, like the medium formats. Good choice, imo, too many companies are pushing the iso on sensors which aren't capable of holding any detail at these extreme high iso. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kris_lamba1 Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 No sensor cleaning, no film mode (not that that really bothers me) is a bit lame, but the image quality and dynamic range should be good. I'll be pissed if there using the Sony sensor... I was really hoping for an announcement of a Nikon with a larger sensor as well as the d3x, perhaps that is still to come... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabesouza Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 How long do you guys think the D3 will stay in production? It's become so popular with PJ's, especially with the crazy ISO range that I would think we'll see it stay in production, especially for sports shooters and PJ's with the high fps rate, because it looks like they're not going that route with the D3x...regardless it will be interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daverhaas Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Gabe - Based on what we know (ISO-Range / Speed) I'd venture a guess that the D3 will remain in production for a while - At least until a D4 comes along... The D3x seems to be aimed more at studios / controlled lighting situations as opposed to fast / extreme low light that the D3 is aimed at. Although I do shoot sports with the D300 which has the same ISO limits. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkka_nissila Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 There is clear product differentiation between D3 and D3X: ISO ranges 200-6400 vs. 100-1600, fps rates 9fps vs. 5fps (full size image), image sizes 12MP vs. 24MP; these are all substantial differences. Thus while there is overlap in capabilities, they are cameras intended for different applications. I don't see the D3 being discontinued until a D4 is announced. The price may go down as it has already, but from the specs it is obvious that the D3X is not the replacement to the D3, but its "sister" model. For most applications and common print sizes the D3 is a very capable camera. To me, I can't afford to, nor do I really want to keep up with the development; I already got what I wanted for a long time (full frame) and the quality is very good for my purposes, and the file sizes are manageable, which is important to minimize time spent on post-processing instead of shooting. What's nice is that I can stop commenting on lens quality - nobody will be interested to know how certain lenses perform on a 12 MP FX camera and everyone will crave lens tests that are done on 24 MP. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Luttmann Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Looks great by the sounds of things. Perfect landscape camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_skomial Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 "Fact that they are limiting the iso to 100 - 1600 makes me think that" - Nikon traded high ISO for more pixels, and possibly also compromised some dynamic range of the camera technology as we know in D3. If this is the case?, predictions for D3 staying in production for much longer time are good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Luttmann Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Frank, I think there's two completely seperate target markets for the D3 & D3X. The D3 is more the sports and PJ, and the D3X is the studio and landscape camera. I'd say at base iso, where most studio and landscape shots reside, the DR and noise of the D3X should be fine. Now for the price....let's wait and see ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_mccormac Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Hi Can I correct some facts in the above? I'm in the UK, and I've my copy of Nikon Pro in front of me, also delivered today. It quotes the ISO range as 50 to 6400, not as above. The other significant thing for me was the frame rate - 5fps at full resolution, 7fps in DX crop mode. Sounds like a D3 killer to me... Mike www.mikemccormac.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabesouza Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Mike, I'm not exactly sure you could call it a D3 killer. Others above seem to be in line with my original thought that they are more sister cameras. The D3 does 9fps in FX, that's a big difference than 5, and the OP as well as the link that Richard included to the articles say the ISO can "jump" to 6400, but the true range is 100-1600. As Dave said, each camera has it's own use and sweet spot. For me (someone who still uses a D2H for PJ work), the D3 would seem to be the perfect balance of everything. One of my friends who works for a sister newspaper, gets very usable results from 12,800 ISO for night football games from his D3 at a reasonable file size. I think 75 MB files would be a bit of a pain, but when you want ultimate detail, it couldn't be better for landscapes and portrait work. I'm sure a RAW file from the D3X at ISO 100 with a great lens is beautiful, but I'll settle for the D3, that is when my newspaper gets around to giving me one :) Gabe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkka_nissila Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 According to the article, the ISO range up from 1600 are boost modes, just as those higher than 6400 are on the D3 (from Hi-.3 to Hi-2). Typically Nikon designates the largest calibrated ISO setting (in this case, 1600) as the threshold of a generally acceptable image, in the context of a pro camera it could be interpreted as the largest ISO which can be used to obtain a publication quality image with the assumption that the exposure is spot on. 7fps in DX crop mode might be fine by itself, but then you lose most of the pixels so why not use a D300 instead, and get more pixels, higher ISO, higher fps, larger VF, and lower price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mats nilson photography Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 I think it's great that the D3 and D3x are so similar, yet subtly but significantly different! I need both high ISO and lots of pixels, but not necessarily at the same time. High frame rate - well, for my purposes, both have that. But since they're relatively similar, they make perfect backups for each other, while at the same time offering an edge each of its own. Switching between them would probably be effortless. Now...it's just a matter of affording them both.. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ty_mickan Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Gabe- D3 is for event photography, pj and sport, and the D3x is for.........? Seems like a poor mans medium format camera to me. Kind of like a "jack of all trades, master of none" type camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Luttmann Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Tom, I would say it's a master at landscape and studio. What I've found with the 24mp files from the Sony is that I can have a 16x24 just as sharp and detailed as what I got from my old 6mp Canon 10D at 8x12. It's enough that 20x30 works in a stretch. While I prefer 240ppi on print, 200 is close enough at 20x30 to keep most people happy....maybe even me. At these sizes, technique, processing and lenses are extremely important to the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkka_nissila Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Tom, if the D3X can use almost all F mount lenses, it sure is more flexible than any medium format system. And also, it's probably going to be a lot cheaper so there shouldn't be any trouble finding applications for it. Personally I am going to pass on this generation - the pace of new models is way too fast for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph_wisniewski Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Kris - "I'll be pissed if there using the Sony sensor" Why? Nikon has proved more than once that they can get much better image quality out of a sensor than Sony can. Compare Nikon D300 to Sony A700. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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